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	<title>Comments on: A Reader Asks: What can conservative Muslims do for music?</title>
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		<title>By: Abdul Rahman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul Rahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So you’re saying there are Muslim private schools teaching Music as a subject?&quot;
It was compulsory for at least years 7 and 8 unless the system has changed a lot since I left. Also for primary school kids. I&#039;m training to be a teacher, has it really changed that much (gets nervous)?

&quot;I don’t think reciting the Quran would be an acceptable substitute because it wouldn’t cover the learning objectives that we are required to meet as teachers.&quot;
Recitation can be quite beautiful and lyrical, try googling Imam Sudais, one of my favourites. It is not like a dry reading from the Bible (God knows I did enough of those). It has strict rules about how it is to be done that tie in nicely with timing, and other elements that may be a part of the curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you’re saying there are Muslim private schools teaching Music as a subject?&#8221;<br />
It was compulsory for at least years 7 and 8 unless the system has changed a lot since I left. Also for primary school kids. I&#8217;m training to be a teacher, has it really changed that much (gets nervous)?</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t think reciting the Quran would be an acceptable substitute because it wouldn’t cover the learning objectives that we are required to meet as teachers.&#8221;<br />
Recitation can be quite beautiful and lyrical, try googling Imam Sudais, one of my favourites. It is not like a dry reading from the Bible (God knows I did enough of those). It has strict rules about how it is to be done that tie in nicely with timing, and other elements that may be a part of the curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: Law Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Law Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t see why private schools should feel compelled to force Muslim children to do music which unfortunately seems to be the case at a lot of the Muslim-run schools in this country.&quot;

So you&#039;re saying there are Muslim private schools teaching Music as a subject?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t see why private schools should feel compelled to force Muslim children to do music which unfortunately seems to be the case at a lot of the Muslim-run schools in this country.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying there are Muslim private schools teaching Music as a subject?</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if music is even compulsory because I remember last year or early this year, there was a report that 2/3 schools don&#039;t have proper music classes and many don&#039;t offer music at all.   From reading http://vels.vcaa.vic.edu.au/essential/discipline/arts/index.html it comes under the broad category of &quot;The Arts&quot; and is grouped with the visual arts, drama and so forth.  I&#039;m not sure if this means that it it compulsory or just that it is recommended by the state.

In any case, I don&#039;t see why private schools should feel compelled to force Muslim children to do music which unfortunately seems to be the case at a lot of the Muslim-run schools in this country.  Surely, if they have to teach them such general concepts as tempo and pitch there are other ways of doing it.  e.g. nasheeds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if music is even compulsory because I remember last year or early this year, there was a report that 2/3 schools don&#8217;t have proper music classes and many don&#8217;t offer music at all.   From reading <a href="http://vels.vcaa.vic.edu.au/essential/discipline/arts/index.html">http://vels.vcaa.vic.edu.au/es.....index.html</a> it comes under the broad category of &#8220;The Arts&#8221; and is grouped with the visual arts, drama and so forth.  I&#8217;m not sure if this means that it it compulsory or just that it is recommended by the state.</p>
<p>In any case, I don&#8217;t see why private schools should feel compelled to force Muslim children to do music which unfortunately seems to be the case at a lot of the Muslim-run schools in this country.  Surely, if they have to teach them such general concepts as tempo and pitch there are other ways of doing it.  e.g. nasheeds</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for your post, I have wondered about the reasons behind teaching music to children, You have mentioned two, and there must be more.  Can you elaborate for us?

I have no understanding in this area, and I am sure the other Muslim readers would be equally appreciative of your expertise in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for your post, I have wondered about the reasons behind teaching music to children, You have mentioned two, and there must be more.  Can you elaborate for us?</p>
<p>I have no understanding in this area, and I am sure the other Muslim readers would be equally appreciative of your expertise in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question was what could non-muslim children in primary school do instead of music given that they are required by the education department to learn basic music.  I don&#039;t think reciting the Quran would be an acceptable substitute because it wouldn&#039;t cover the learning objectives that we are required to meet as teachers.  These acapella songs might work because they would still allow us to teach tempo, melody etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question was what could non-muslim children in primary school do instead of music given that they are required by the education department to learn basic music.  I don&#8217;t think reciting the Quran would be an acceptable substitute because it wouldn&#8217;t cover the learning objectives that we are required to meet as teachers.  These acapella songs might work because they would still allow us to teach tempo, melody etc</p>
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		<title>By: Amatullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amatullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 07:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to Qur&#039;an is ever better. 

Perhaps a sample of some verses would have been nice for non-Muslim readers to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to Qur&#8217;an is ever better. </p>
<p>Perhaps a sample of some verses would have been nice for non-Muslim readers to hear.</p>
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