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	<title>Comments on: Private faith, public service</title>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9869</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazarus was from this century (OK the last one) and she was a from a minority religion that was regarded with suspicion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazarus was from this century (OK the last one) and she was a from a minority religion that was regarded with suspicion.</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9868</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lincoln issue first. It is quite clear that contrary to those recent voices who see him as an atheist, he had a profound reverence for God. His writings and especially his second inaugural address are evidence of that. But he was not a Christian, in fact he is quoted as saying that &quot;Christianity is not my Profession&quot;

It also raises the point of how are Muslims to view someone who clearly believes in God, is not a Pauline Christian and has never been exposed to Islam?

The next point that Amal makes is very interesting. Another example that I didn&#039;t add to the list is Emma Lazarus who wrote the words of the inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty, &quot;the new Colossus&quot;. She was Jewish and distressed by the American treatment of refugees and immigrants.  She used her eloquence to turn the Jewish cultural project of care for the destitute into an American one. Her words although indelibly from her Jewish origins are forever remembered as American
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As for the Muslim example, there isn&#039;t one, and thats my whole point. Muslims should see themselves as part of the west if they choose to live here (which I don&#039;t think that they should in the first place, but thats another controversy for another day).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lincoln issue first. It is quite clear that contrary to those recent voices who see him as an atheist, he had a profound reverence for God. His writings and especially his second inaugural address are evidence of that. But he was not a Christian, in fact he is quoted as saying that &#8220;Christianity is not my Profession&#8221;</p>
<p>It also raises the point of how are Muslims to view someone who clearly believes in God, is not a Pauline Christian and has never been exposed to Islam?</p>
<p>The next point that Amal makes is very interesting. Another example that I didn&#8217;t add to the list is Emma Lazarus who wrote the words of the inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty, &#8220;the new Colossus&#8221;. She was Jewish and distressed by the American treatment of refugees and immigrants.  She used her eloquence to turn the Jewish cultural project of care for the destitute into an American one. Her words although indelibly from her Jewish origins are forever remembered as American</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Give me your tired, your poor,</p>
<p>Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,</p>
<p>The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.</p>
<p>Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,</p>
<p>I lift my lamp beside the golden door!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As for the Muslim example, there isn&#8217;t one, and thats my whole point. Muslims should see themselves as part of the west if they choose to live here (which I don&#8217;t think that they should in the first place, but thats another controversy for another day).</p>
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		<title>By: Amal</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9851</link>
		<dc:creator>Amal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea that Abraham Lincoln didn&#039;t subscribe to a particular religion. 

These examples are interesting, Baybers. But I do think the era and society of these people supported their religious convictions and ipso facto, it was easier for them to invoke religion in their pursuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea that Abraham Lincoln didn&#8217;t subscribe to a particular religion. </p>
<p>These examples are interesting, Baybers. But I do think the era and society of these people supported their religious convictions and ipso facto, it was easier for them to invoke religion in their pursuits.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadower</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9822</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite an interesting historical read. 

But how would it link with Islam? What can we learn from it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite an interesting historical read. </p>
<p>But how would it link with Islam? What can we learn from it?</p>
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		<title>By: YTK</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9780</link>
		<dc:creator>YTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, and true as far as the cases you mention go.  Christianity renders unto Caesar.

But whither Islam and Da`wa?

What would some examples specific to Islam look like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, and true as far as the cases you mention go.  Christianity renders unto Caesar.</p>
<p>But whither Islam and Da`wa?</p>
<p>What would some examples specific to Islam look like?</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9593</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece, Baybers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece, Baybers.</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/private-faith-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-9562</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the reader support for this piece and the many comments, please you are too kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the reader support for this piece and the many comments, please you are too kind.</p>
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