Comments on: The Horrors of Halal http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/ Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: JDsg http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-287313 JDsg Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-287313 @ Mulla: It doesn't work that way. See my comment #18 above. A halal butcher would have to have separate facilities if (s)he wished to work with pork products. I doubt very many would wish to go to that expense or trouble. Trust me, your life won't come to an end once you kick your addiction to pork and bacon. @ Mulla: It doesn’t work that way. See my comment #18 above. A halal butcher would have to have separate facilities if (s)he wished to work with pork products. I doubt very many would wish to go to that expense or trouble.

Trust me, your life won’t come to an end once you kick your addiction to pork and bacon.

]]> By: Mulla http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-286752 Mulla Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:23:22 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-286752 The only concern i have about Halal meats getting famous is that this means that we will get lesser Pork and Bacon! Why cant the Halal butchers do Pork and Bacon as well? This will solve a lot of issues. Like i read... we adopt a little and the Halal butchers adopt a little! Win - Win! The only concern i have about Halal meats getting famous is that this means that we will get lesser Pork and Bacon! Why cant the Halal butchers do Pork and Bacon as well? This will solve a lot of issues. Like i read… we adopt a little and the Halal butchers adopt a little! Win – Win!

]]> By: eib http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-255923 eib Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:43:12 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-255923 The "ignorant" should be silenced? Not a very democratic way of life. Not a very respectful or humanistic perspective. Your wish to silence the infidel has provoked my contempt. The “ignorant” should be silenced?
Not a very democratic way of life.
Not a very respectful or humanistic perspective.
Your wish to silence the infidel has provoked my contempt.

]]> By: eib http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-255922 eib Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:41:58 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-255922 I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and true devotion to God, not burnt offerings. Hosea wrote it. Jesus said it. God intended it. As for Islam-- Ye shall know them by their fruits. And we know you. I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and true devotion to God, not burnt offerings.
Hosea wrote it.
Jesus said it.
God intended it.
As for Islam– Ye shall know them by their fruits.
And we know you.

]]> By: Mary http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-255615 Mary Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:41:03 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-255615 Muslims believe that all prophets were sinless. They made mistakes but they never sinned. That is how God willed it to be. They were created pure by the grace of god. Then think again is it really important that Jesus is the son of god or his prophet? I personally don’t think so. What is important is his message, the message of all prophets of God. Please don’t respond by saying something like you can only find salvation through Jesus or something like that. This sentence can be true if you look at it in another way. Salvation lies in believing that the prophets of the one and only God, like Jesus, existed and in believing in their message. All of our three religions have at some point been infiltrated by evil. Clergy who added, removed, emphasized, downplayed and interpreted parts of the religion to use the faith as a weapon, as a tool of power. These evil clergy breath hate towards the other two faiths and try ever so hard to make these three main Ibrahimic religions seem so different while they are ever so similar to keep their congregations together and them in power. What is important is the message not quotes within our religious teachings that tell us only Christians or Muslims or Jews or Catholics or Protestants or…. will find salvation. These messages are only trying to divide us, keep us at each other’s throats and keep us swayed from the truth of our faith, the truth that can only be found in the depths of our hearts and the core of our three religions. By comparing the three you can find where each has gone wrong. In the end the core message of the Ibrahimic religions is true or one big lie. So I think instead of hating Muslims Christians should be happy to eat the meat of a people who also believe in the God of Jesus. They usually don’t have a problem eating the meat of nonbelievers in places like Thailand. They also wouldn’t mind eating Kosher meat (Jewish meat), which by the way is prepared in exactly the same way as Halal meat. It is amazing how the rules for Halal and kosher match. Muslims believe that all prophets were sinless. They made mistakes but they never sinned. That is how God willed it to be. They were created pure by the grace of god. Then think again is it really important that Jesus is the son of god or his prophet? I personally don’t think so. What is important is his message, the message of all prophets of God. Please don’t respond by saying something like you can only find salvation through Jesus or something like that. This sentence can be true if you look at it in another way. Salvation lies in believing that the prophets of the one and only God, like Jesus, existed and in believing in their message. All of our three religions have at some point been infiltrated by evil. Clergy who added, removed, emphasized, downplayed and interpreted parts of the religion to use the faith as a weapon, as a tool of power. These evil clergy breath hate towards the other two faiths and try ever so hard to make these three main Ibrahimic religions seem so different while they are ever so similar to keep their congregations together and them in power. What is important is the message not quotes within our religious teachings that tell us only Christians or Muslims or Jews or Catholics or Protestants or…. will find salvation. These messages are only trying to divide us, keep us at each other’s throats and keep us swayed from the truth of our faith, the truth that can only be found in the depths of our hearts and the core of our three religions. By comparing the three you can find where each has gone wrong. In the end the core message of the Ibrahimic religions is true or one big lie. So I think instead of hating Muslims Christians should be happy to eat the meat of a people who also believe in the God of Jesus. They usually don’t have a problem eating the meat of nonbelievers in places like Thailand. They also wouldn’t mind eating Kosher meat (Jewish meat), which by the way is prepared in exactly the same way as Halal meat. It is amazing how the rules for Halal and kosher match.

]]> By: megg http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-249681 megg Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:58:21 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-249681 I quiet respect the work ethic of muslims and the way they pray I am in no way insulting islam. But the comment God has no sons is far fetched. As God does have a Beggotten son. U see as human we cannot be without sin living on this earth. So how is possible that muslims belive jesus was a prophet with no sin only God can be sinless no one else. Jesus was a divine being who came to die for our sins and the sooner you belive in him the earlier ur realtionship with God will become closer. Remember christianity judasiam and islam are just religions u can only be saved through ur faith and Grace of God only through his begotton son.meaning I can be a christian through birth but am not behaving christ like. God bless all may he open your eyes in Finding the truth. Jesus died for a purpose to save all our souls he was the ultimate sacrifice. In the days of abraham the used to sacrifice all the time a consolidtion for sin. Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice! No more burnt offerings! I quiet respect the work ethic of muslims and the way they pray I am in no way insulting islam. But the comment God has no sons is far fetched. As God does have a Beggotten son. U see as human we cannot be without sin living on this earth. So how is possible that muslims belive jesus was a prophet with no sin only God can be sinless no one else. Jesus was a divine being who came to die for our sins and the sooner you belive in him the earlier ur realtionship with God will become closer. Remember christianity judasiam and islam are just religions u can only be saved through ur faith and Grace of God only through his begotton son.meaning I can be a christian through birth but am not behaving christ like. God bless all may he open your eyes in Finding the truth. Jesus died for a purpose to save all our souls he was the ultimate sacrifice. In the days of abraham the used to sacrifice all the time a consolidtion for sin. Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice! No more burnt offerings!

]]> By: ayesha http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-248789 ayesha Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:32:18 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-248789 Meg, I don't mean to offend you... but I actually laughed out loud ALOT when I read your post. The reason why Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are grouped together under the umbrella of "monotheism" is because we all believe in the same merciful God. One God. The same God. Ok, now that that's out of the way. Just so you know, Muslims also believe in Jesus, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, John the Baptist and most other "Christian" prophets you can think of. The reason for this is that... Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all Abraham religions!!!! In most prayers that praise the prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him), we praise Abraham too!! The problem with your argument is that you have made one fundamental mistake. You have assumed that you and your Muslim friends know all that there is to know about Islam... guess what, none of you do... religions are such complex things that most people who have read "Google articles" about them have just scratched the surface. And I don’t mean this in an offensive way, as someone who has been born and raised a Muslim, who has studied the religion; I can honestly say that there are vast areas that I have yet to fully comprehend (like the intricacies of inheritance). So relax, no one is trying to kick sand in anyone’s face (even if we don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God) because… if you think about it there are many many Christians that don’t believe it either. Modern Christian nontrinitarian groups and denominations include Christadelphians, Christian Science, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, some groups in the Latter Day Saint movement, Oneness Pentecostalism, Unitarianism, and United Church of God. Meg, I don’t mean to offend you… but I actually laughed out loud ALOT when I read your post.

The reason why Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are grouped together under the umbrella of “monotheism” is because we all believe in the same merciful God. One God. The same God.

Ok, now that that’s out of the way. Just so you know, Muslims also believe in Jesus, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, John the Baptist and most other “Christian” prophets you can think of. The reason for this is that… Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all Abraham religions!!!! In most prayers that praise the prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him), we praise Abraham too!!

The problem with your argument is that you have made one fundamental mistake. You have assumed that you and your Muslim friends know all that there is to know about Islam… guess what, none of you do… religions are such complex things that most people who have read “Google articles” about them have just scratched the surface. And I don’t mean this in an offensive way, as someone who has been born and raised a Muslim, who has studied the religion; I can honestly say that there are vast areas that I have yet to fully comprehend (like the intricacies of inheritance).

So relax, no one is trying to kick sand in anyone’s face (even if we don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God) because… if you think about it there are many many Christians that don’t believe it either. Modern Christian nontrinitarian groups and denominations include Christadelphians, Christian Science, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah’s Witnesses, some groups in the Latter Day Saint movement, Oneness Pentecostalism, Unitarianism, and United Church of God.

]]> By: Muhammad Eusha http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-248091 Muhammad Eusha Tue, 23 Nov 2010 03:50:15 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-248091 It's funny. I am amused by Megg's comments on Islam. It is also funny how you have been convinced by the laws and theories of christianity. However, your lack of knowledge is profoundly displayed by your comments. I therefore suggest you read more before you make comments. Moreover, you should probably leave the arguing to christian men (I'm assuming you're a woman). Women aren't capable of arguing. You don't know either about christianity or about islam! If you knew, you would have become a muslim right away. You need more study and real knowledge instead of superficial stuff. :) You can talk to me if you want. I'll answer your questions. But remember, you must ask questions with the goal of a person who is seeking the truth. If you are seeking arguments for pleasure, Allah doesn't show the right path to people who follow their fighting instincts. And beware! Allah has no sons! God has no sons! He doesn't have a wife either. Remember that one of the most lethal mistakes human beings make is they think God is like them. :) He isn't. It’s funny. I am amused by Megg’s comments on Islam. It is also funny how you have been convinced by the laws and theories of christianity. However, your lack of knowledge is profoundly displayed by your comments. I therefore suggest you read more before you make comments. Moreover, you should probably leave the arguing to christian men (I’m assuming you’re a woman). Women aren’t capable of arguing.

You don’t know either about christianity or about islam! If you knew, you would have become a muslim right away. You need more study and real knowledge instead of superficial stuff. :)

You can talk to me if you want. I’ll answer your questions. But remember, you must ask questions with the goal of a person who is seeking the truth. If you are seeking arguments for pleasure, Allah doesn’t show the right path to people who follow their fighting instincts.

And beware! Allah has no sons! God has no sons! He doesn’t have a wife either. Remember that one of the most lethal mistakes human beings make is they think God is like them. :) He isn’t.

]]> By: HRD77 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-243614 HRD77 Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:36:48 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-243614 most australian beef and lamb is halal because the export trade is much more important financially to the whole supply chain from feed and grain to cattle and sheep producers, agents, cattle yards, feed lots, auction houses, transport companies, labour, suppliers, abbatoirs (the list goes on). even though only a small amount of what we see in Oz is certified halal, in reality most of the meat is. so if anyone has any complaints dont take it up with the muslim community take it up with all the industries listed above. most australian beef and lamb is halal because the export trade is much more important financially to the whole supply chain from feed and grain to cattle and sheep producers, agents, cattle yards, feed lots, auction houses, transport companies, labour, suppliers, abbatoirs (the list goes on). even though only a small amount of what we see in Oz is certified halal, in reality most of the meat is. so if anyone has any complaints dont take it up with the muslim community take it up with all the industries listed above.

]]> By: megg http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/comment-page-1/#comment-243538 megg Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:34:42 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/01/the-horrors-of-halal/#comment-243538 No I am not implying that muslims don't worship one God I am implying that you don't worship the same God as the christian and jew God the God of Abraham and isreal and of Jesus (yeshua) the only Son of God. I know all about islam thank you. I understand ur argument howver the early muslims used to pray a number of times a day and pray facing mekkah and do all the same practices that the muslims of today do and they where worshipping idols. Google it its not far from reach. There's to many flaws I respect muslims I have muslim friends but wen it comes to religion I don't belive that we are all worshipping one God no. How can we wen muslims don't belive in the crucifixtion of christ and that God sent his son to die for the world. John 3.16. We all sinners and God loves us and is forgiving we are coming to the end of days don't turn ur back on God and the truth. Even jews now are slowly realising that yeshua is the messiah and are called messanic jews. While there is still life there is hope. Take your time . I ask God to Bless u and Guide u in your journey to the truth. Amen. Remeber deception is similar to the truth. Don't be decived. No I am not implying that muslims don’t worship one God I am implying that you don’t worship the same God as the christian and jew God the God of Abraham and isreal and of Jesus (yeshua) the only Son of God. I know all about islam thank you. I understand ur argument howver the early muslims used to pray a number of times a day and pray facing mekkah and do all the same practices that the muslims of today do and they where worshipping idols. Google it its not far from reach. There’s to many flaws I respect muslims I have muslim friends but wen it comes to religion I don’t belive that we are all worshipping one God no. How can we wen muslims don’t belive in the crucifixtion of christ and that God sent his son to die for the world. John 3.16. We all sinners and God loves us and is forgiving we are coming to the end of days don’t turn ur back on God and the truth. Even jews now are slowly realising that yeshua is the messiah and are called messanic jews. While there is still life there is hope. Take your time . I ask God to Bless u and Guide u in your journey to the truth. Amen. Remeber deception is similar to the truth. Don’t be decived.

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