Comments on: Muslim community gives to disadvantaged http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/ Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Joe in Australia http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/comment-page-1/#comment-3812 Joe in Australia Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:21:08 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/#comment-3812 I've read that the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem are held by a Muslim. The reason is that the Church's ownership is held by a number of Christian sects and they can't get along, so they use an outsider as a neutral arbiter of their rights. It seems to me that this accountant might fill a similar role. I’ve read that the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem are held by a Muslim. The reason is that the Church’s ownership is held by a number of Christian sects and they can’t get along, so they use an outsider as a neutral arbiter of their rights. It seems to me that this accountant might fill a similar role.

]]> By: Shadower http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/comment-page-1/#comment-3772 Shadower Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:12:57 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/#comment-3772 Baybers: They are really good points. But can we do anything to get them implemented? Can AFIC change with such a rotten leadership? It looked hopeful for a brief period in 2006 when the elections were on. Then it seemed to go haywire from there. Baybers: They are really good points. But can we do anything to get them implemented? Can AFIC change with such a rotten leadership?

It looked hopeful for a brief period in 2006 when the elections were on. Then it seemed to go haywire from there.

]]> By: Amir http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/comment-page-1/#comment-3770 Amir Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:49:18 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/#comment-3770 The Islamic Council of Victoria actually publish all their financials each year which I think is an excellent idea. Of course, a private organisation doesn't need to make these things public but if you are going to represent a community it can't hurt to be a little transparent with these things. It will only help your credibility (unless, of course, you have something to hide). The ICV report can be read <a href="http://icv.org.au/assets/annualreport0405.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a> [PDF] The Islamic Council of Victoria actually publish all their financials each year which I think is an excellent idea. Of course, a private organisation doesn’t need to make these things public but if you are going to represent a community it can’t hurt to be a little transparent with these things. It will only help your credibility (unless, of course, you have something to hide).

The ICV report can be read here [PDF]

]]> By: Baybers http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/comment-page-1/#comment-3769 Baybers Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:41:13 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/#comment-3769 There are several options and there are previous models that we can use as a template 1. reform AFIC by making directorships directly electable from each Islamic society with at least 1000 members, and not from state branches. This would make bribing delegates more difficult 2. independent accountants, separate investment advisors and independent auditors with annual published findings 3. 2 year directorships 4. Government pressure to remove link between AFIC and the gravy train, (i.e. Islamic schools and halal meat certification) 5. community scrutiny via this web-site and others to highlight problems 6. Name and shame directors who commit excess This would involve government muscle to pressure the organisation to reform itself. alternatively they could do it privately through the administrator. Alternatively they could unilaterally declare it a banned organisation and dissolve it like that. There are several options and there are previous models that we can use as a template

1. reform AFIC by making directorships directly electable from each Islamic society with at least 1000 members, and not from state branches. This would make bribing delegates more difficult

2. independent accountants, separate investment advisors and independent auditors with annual published findings

3. 2 year directorships

4. Government pressure to remove link between AFIC and the gravy train, (i.e. Islamic schools and halal meat certification)

5. community scrutiny via this web-site and others to highlight problems

6. Name and shame directors who commit excess

This would involve government muscle to pressure the organisation to reform itself. alternatively they could do it privately through the administrator.

Alternatively they could unilaterally declare it a banned organisation and dissolve it like that.

]]> By: Shadower http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/comment-page-1/#comment-3764 Shadower Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:53:36 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2006/12/26/muslim-community-gives-to-disadvantaged/#comment-3764 AFIC is hopeless, and I fail to understand why his pay is doubled. The whole organization just seems beyond repair. AFIC is hopeless, and I fail to understand why his pay is doubled.

The whole organization just seems beyond repair.

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