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		<title>By: mekhapes</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-14934</link>
		<dc:creator>mekhapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything in your posts. One of the accepted &#039;truths&#039; of this debate is that totalitarianism is not  
symptomatic of any particular religion. Rather, it is one of the resultant effects of myriad causes. However, given  
that the particular form of totalitarianism you are referring to evolved in an Islamic environment, it is no surprise  
that Islamic &#039;embroidery&#039; was used to insinuate it into its particular society.

I feel that a Muslim candidate can very ably represent the interests of the Muslim community. Although, one  
should keep in mind that a non-Muslim candidate can also, very ably, represent the community&#039;s interests. In  
fact, in most pluralist societies today, we see Conservative Muslims, Liberal Muslims, Socialist Muslims etc. No  
specific Muslim candidate, Conservative, Liberal or other can say they&#039;re the ONLY ones representing the  
Muslim community. As you indicated, these candidates may choose to stand for any platform they want, the  
community, however, is responsible for choosing its representative.

It goes without saying that we must be wary about what label these political parties or candidates operate under. The community must look past the metaphorical &#039;wrapping&#039; and check the &#039;ingredients&#039; of their prospective choice. Taking socialism as an example, many political movements originating in Muslim countries have used the label of socialism. So has Zionism in the Jewish world. As had the Nazis in Germany. Each of these philosophies embraced some supposed variant of socialism, yet they are all antithetical to each other.

I guess I&#039;m very cynical about the misleading hype and marketing that comes naturally to politicians and seek the actual, real policies and substance beneath the applied label. I cannot stress the dangers involved if a society becomes complacent in choosing its representatives. One example of this trend is in Zionism where the philosophy gained acceptance as a socialist movement for the traumatised Jewish population of post-war Europe but today mainly exists to provide blanket justification for any action taken by the state of Israel. It is this hijacking of a philosophy, and, thereby, of a society&#039;s rights that is the main result of a complacent and uninformed or uninterested electorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything in your posts. One of the accepted &#8216;truths&#8217; of this debate is that totalitarianism is not<br />
symptomatic of any particular religion. Rather, it is one of the resultant effects of myriad causes. However, given<br />
that the particular form of totalitarianism you are referring to evolved in an Islamic environment, it is no surprise<br />
that Islamic &#8216;embroidery&#8217; was used to insinuate it into its particular society.</p>
<p>I feel that a Muslim candidate can very ably represent the interests of the Muslim community. Although, one<br />
should keep in mind that a non-Muslim candidate can also, very ably, represent the community&#8217;s interests. In<br />
fact, in most pluralist societies today, we see Conservative Muslims, Liberal Muslims, Socialist Muslims etc. No<br />
specific Muslim candidate, Conservative, Liberal or other can say they&#8217;re the ONLY ones representing the<br />
Muslim community. As you indicated, these candidates may choose to stand for any platform they want, the<br />
community, however, is responsible for choosing its representative.</p>
<p>It goes without saying that we must be wary about what label these political parties or candidates operate under. The community must look past the metaphorical &#8216;wrapping&#8217; and check the &#8216;ingredients&#8217; of their prospective choice. Taking socialism as an example, many political movements originating in Muslim countries have used the label of socialism. So has Zionism in the Jewish world. As had the Nazis in Germany. Each of these philosophies embraced some supposed variant of socialism, yet they are all antithetical to each other.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m very cynical about the misleading hype and marketing that comes naturally to politicians and seek the actual, real policies and substance beneath the applied label. I cannot stress the dangers involved if a society becomes complacent in choosing its representatives. One example of this trend is in Zionism where the philosophy gained acceptance as a socialist movement for the traumatised Jewish population of post-war Europe but today mainly exists to provide blanket justification for any action taken by the state of Israel. It is this hijacking of a philosophy, and, thereby, of a society&#8217;s rights that is the main result of a complacent and uninformed or uninterested electorate.</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-14874</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other point that I wish to make is a linguistic peculiarity  amongst Muslims.

when we want to critique something in the Muslim world, pious Muslims refer to it as a &quot;Muslim&quot; problem as opposed to an &quot;Islamic&quot; one (which we do not believe can ever occur). 

That is why nobody here  believes that the dysfunction in large parts of the Muslim world is an &quot;Islamic&quot; problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other point that I wish to make is a linguistic peculiarity  amongst Muslims.</p>
<p>when we want to critique something in the Muslim world, pious Muslims refer to it as a &#8220;Muslim&#8221; problem as opposed to an &#8220;Islamic&#8221; one (which we do not believe can ever occur). </p>
<p>That is why nobody here  believes that the dysfunction in large parts of the Muslim world is an &#8220;Islamic&#8221; problem</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-14858</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful comments.

I would begin by saying that I agree with most of what you say. The totalitarian systems of government in large parts of the Muslim world are not a function of those countries being Muslim nor do they have any intrinsic basis in Islam (although some have Islamic embroidery to cover them), Rather they are a function of  poor eduction, post colonial structures and very poor systems of economic and social policy. It is common throughout the developing world and not specific to the Muslim world.

The Muslim world is dysfunctional because it is part of the developing world and not because it is Muslim. If you believe that unfair associations are being made between Islam and the dysfunction of Muslim societies then I could not agree with you more. 

As a Muslim I feel this pressure more than perhaps you do. It was one of the reasons we have this site. 

I also agree that candidates should be judged on their policies and not as the &quot;Islamic&quot; or &quot;Jewish&quot; candidate. As a broader point I don&#039;t think that a Muslim candidate should be a partisan for the Muslim community, rather they more correctly fulfill their religious obligation by governing in the interests of all society and not just narrow sectional interests. 

If you read through the archives of this site you will see where we have demonstrated moves to align Islam with a particular western political philosophy (socialism) with which it is almost completely antithetical. Although you say it should not be permitted, I say it should be debated and Muslims will generally decide correctly if given the opportunity to do so.

However I do believe that Muslim societies do have a totalitarian forms of government. These systems of governance are not a result of being Muslim as they occur elsewhere. In Muslim societies it is paradoxically the secular modern forms of government (socialism and its variants) that are the most totalitarian. There are two exceptions only to this rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful comments.</p>
<p>I would begin by saying that I agree with most of what you say. The totalitarian systems of government in large parts of the Muslim world are not a function of those countries being Muslim nor do they have any intrinsic basis in Islam (although some have Islamic embroidery to cover them), Rather they are a function of  poor eduction, post colonial structures and very poor systems of economic and social policy. It is common throughout the developing world and not specific to the Muslim world.</p>
<p>The Muslim world is dysfunctional because it is part of the developing world and not because it is Muslim. If you believe that unfair associations are being made between Islam and the dysfunction of Muslim societies then I could not agree with you more. </p>
<p>As a Muslim I feel this pressure more than perhaps you do. It was one of the reasons we have this site. </p>
<p>I also agree that candidates should be judged on their policies and not as the &#8220;Islamic&#8221; or &#8220;Jewish&#8221; candidate. As a broader point I don&#8217;t think that a Muslim candidate should be a partisan for the Muslim community, rather they more correctly fulfill their religious obligation by governing in the interests of all society and not just narrow sectional interests. </p>
<p>If you read through the archives of this site you will see where we have demonstrated moves to align Islam with a particular western political philosophy (socialism) with which it is almost completely antithetical. Although you say it should not be permitted, I say it should be debated and Muslims will generally decide correctly if given the opportunity to do so.</p>
<p>However I do believe that Muslim societies do have a totalitarian forms of government. These systems of governance are not a result of being Muslim as they occur elsewhere. In Muslim societies it is paradoxically the secular modern forms of government (socialism and its variants) that are the most totalitarian. There are two exceptions only to this rule.</p>
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		<title>By: mekhapes</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-14838</link>
		<dc:creator>mekhapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baybers,
Could you please clarify what you mean specifically by &quot;the dysfunction of contemporary Muslim societies&quot;? Is there a specific dysfunction you are referring to that affects only contemporary Muslim societies? I ask as I&#039;m unaware of a single such political or social malady that singularly affects a specific society, based on that society&#039;s religious affiliation.
I was also unaware that totalitarian forms of government are a specifically Islamic dysfunction.
Totalitarian governments can and do, as you are, of course, well aware, manifest themselves in all societies, regardless of race colour or creed.
What I&#039;m getting at, Baybers, is the connection being made here between the religion, Islam, and all sorts of socio-political issues. Can one state that a certain country is poor because it is populated by Muslims? Or that another is rich because it is populated by Christians, Jews or Athiests?
You may label me cynical, but I am deeply suspicious of the drive to link all sorts of socio-political maladies on a specific religion. We saw the Nazis successfully link pre-world-war-2 Germany&#039;s numerous maladies on the Jewish population along with a variety of other scapegoats. We&#039;re all aware of the results.
As I stated in my earlier post, responsible voters must investigate each individual political candidate or political party&#039;s manifesto, policies, views and beliefs before voting for them. This seems obvious in statement, but, unfortunately, is somewhat sublime in today&#039;s society. The point is this: don&#039;t just vote for someone because they are the &#039;Muslim&#039; candidate...or the &#039;Jewish&#039; candidate etc. As you stated, there may be no specific Islamic environmental policy. There is also no specific Jewish environmental policy nor a Gay and Lesbian environmental policy. In fact, the policies of the &#039;Green&#039; party in one country may be quite different from those of the &#039;Green&#039; party in another country. In spite of this, there are Muslim, Jewish and Homosexual politicians. As well there should be.
It is not sufficient for a candidate to say &quot;I&#039;m a Muslim, vote for me&quot;. I think voters are too smart to fall for this and will question such a candidate to specifically detail their policies.
There are today a number of forces, both from within and external to Islam, whose goal is to align Islam with a specific set of views and values. This should not be permitted. I am conscious
 that you play into this when you suggest that a rather large and diverse set of nations all suffer from &quot;the dysfunction of contemporary Muslim societies&quot;. As there is no specific Islamic environmental policy, there isn&#039;t a specific dysfunction in Muslim societies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baybers,<br />
Could you please clarify what you mean specifically by &#8220;the dysfunction of contemporary Muslim societies&#8221;? Is there a specific dysfunction you are referring to that affects only contemporary Muslim societies? I ask as I&#8217;m unaware of a single such political or social malady that singularly affects a specific society, based on that society&#8217;s religious affiliation.<br />
I was also unaware that totalitarian forms of government are a specifically Islamic dysfunction.<br />
Totalitarian governments can and do, as you are, of course, well aware, manifest themselves in all societies, regardless of race colour or creed.<br />
What I&#8217;m getting at, Baybers, is the connection being made here between the religion, Islam, and all sorts of socio-political issues. Can one state that a certain country is poor because it is populated by Muslims? Or that another is rich because it is populated by Christians, Jews or Athiests?<br />
You may label me cynical, but I am deeply suspicious of the drive to link all sorts of socio-political maladies on a specific religion. We saw the Nazis successfully link pre-world-war-2 Germany&#8217;s numerous maladies on the Jewish population along with a variety of other scapegoats. We&#8217;re all aware of the results.<br />
As I stated in my earlier post, responsible voters must investigate each individual political candidate or political party&#8217;s manifesto, policies, views and beliefs before voting for them. This seems obvious in statement, but, unfortunately, is somewhat sublime in today&#8217;s society. The point is this: don&#8217;t just vote for someone because they are the &#8216;Muslim&#8217; candidate&#8230;or the &#8216;Jewish&#8217; candidate etc. As you stated, there may be no specific Islamic environmental policy. There is also no specific Jewish environmental policy nor a Gay and Lesbian environmental policy. In fact, the policies of the &#8216;Green&#8217; party in one country may be quite different from those of the &#8216;Green&#8217; party in another country. In spite of this, there are Muslim, Jewish and Homosexual politicians. As well there should be.<br />
It is not sufficient for a candidate to say &#8220;I&#8217;m a Muslim, vote for me&#8221;. I think voters are too smart to fall for this and will question such a candidate to specifically detail their policies.<br />
There are today a number of forces, both from within and external to Islam, whose goal is to align Islam with a specific set of views and values. This should not be permitted. I am conscious<br />
 that you play into this when you suggest that a rather large and diverse set of nations all suffer from &#8220;the dysfunction of contemporary Muslim societies&#8221;. As there is no specific Islamic environmental policy, there isn&#8217;t a specific dysfunction in Muslim societies.</p>
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		<title>By: Malikeh Micheals</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-13668</link>
		<dc:creator>Malikeh Micheals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello and Salaamns to all who have commented for and against this topic.

Australia is a democracy and it is positive to have open debate and allow people to express their views.

 I will say that the other candidates Barabara Perry (ALP) is a strong Chistian and Le Lam (Unity) a Buddhist and no mention has been made of their religion. I am a Muslim, an Australian and from an English speaking background so therefor can say I can represent people on a broad range of issues. I am also a mother and an environmentalist ( I have a law degree and have studied some environmental law). I am happy to enter the mainstream political arena as a Muslim as I hope it will help the general population understand that people can follow a religion whether it be Christian, Buddhist or Muslim and participate incommunity the same as everyone regardless of religion or cultural background. 
 
I am a Muslim, yes, but I am running on The Greens platform of social justice and environmental sustainability. I am happy to represent Muslims because I am a Muslim and understand the issues and lobby for equality. I do however stand for all people in my community, regardless of their religion. Australia is a pluralist society where we can wear scarves, have beards and dress how we like, whether that be covered or the opposite. Many Muslim countries do not allow mthese freedoms.

The Green&#039;s platform for Auburn includes reducing Greenhouse gas emissions with the use of renewable energy and fuel; promote grey water and water recycling; offering more services for the community including more ESL teachers in schools and NESB education and settlement services for migrants and refugees to help settle in Australia; a good public transport system to reduce car use and better support and education services for women and children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello and Salaamns to all who have commented for and against this topic.</p>
<p>Australia is a democracy and it is positive to have open debate and allow people to express their views.</p>
<p> I will say that the other candidates Barabara Perry (ALP) is a strong Chistian and Le Lam (Unity) a Buddhist and no mention has been made of their religion. I am a Muslim, an Australian and from an English speaking background so therefor can say I can represent people on a broad range of issues. I am also a mother and an environmentalist ( I have a law degree and have studied some environmental law). I am happy to enter the mainstream political arena as a Muslim as I hope it will help the general population understand that people can follow a religion whether it be Christian, Buddhist or Muslim and participate incommunity the same as everyone regardless of religion or cultural background. </p>
<p>I am a Muslim, yes, but I am running on The Greens platform of social justice and environmental sustainability. I am happy to represent Muslims because I am a Muslim and understand the issues and lobby for equality. I do however stand for all people in my community, regardless of their religion. Australia is a pluralist society where we can wear scarves, have beards and dress how we like, whether that be covered or the opposite. Many Muslim countries do not allow mthese freedoms.</p>
<p>The Green&#8217;s platform for Auburn includes reducing Greenhouse gas emissions with the use of renewable energy and fuel; promote grey water and water recycling; offering more services for the community including more ESL teachers in schools and NESB education and settlement services for migrants and refugees to help settle in Australia; a good public transport system to reduce car use and better support and education services for women and children.</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-12188</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mekhapes,

If you look back through our archives you will find that we believe that democracy is a very good thing. A large part of the dysfunction of contemporary Muslim societies can be attributed to their totalitarian forms of governance.

As for Amir&#039;s point, I think he was trying to say that whilst Islam is pro environment there is no single Islamic environmental policy. A wide variety of environmental policies may all be &quot;Islamic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mekhapes,</p>
<p>If you look back through our archives you will find that we believe that democracy is a very good thing. A large part of the dysfunction of contemporary Muslim societies can be attributed to their totalitarian forms of governance.</p>
<p>As for Amir&#8217;s point, I think he was trying to say that whilst Islam is pro environment there is no single Islamic environmental policy. A wide variety of environmental policies may all be &#8220;Islamic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: mekhapes</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-12130</link>
		<dc:creator>mekhapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. To your first query of whether Muslim engagement with the political process is a good thing, I can only ask in return if you think democracy is a good thing. That is to say whether you feel you, as a citizen, should have an active say in how you&#039;re governed. As a citizen, I would like to have my rights and liberties safeguarded and, therefore, will partake actively with the political process to ensure this. Should a citizen who happens to be Muslim be denied this right? Of course not. Therefore, yes Muslim engagement with the political process is a good thing if Muslim citizens wish to have a say in how they are governed.

As for your second query, I&#039;m not entirely sure what you&#039;re asking. If you&#039;re questioning the concept of whether a political aspirant should be allowed to choose their specific political platform, then yes, absolutely. In a democracy that is truly representative, a political candidate must make his/her views, values and beliefs clear on a variety of subjects (conservation, civil rights, gun control etc.). It is then left to the electorate to vote and, thereby, indicate either their support for, or opposition against, these said views.
Should these rights be denied to candidates who state their views are based on an “Islamic platform”? I see no reason why.

On the other hand, if you&#039;re asking whether these same candidates can benefit from the support of an established political party, then, again, absolutely. If I was a political aspirant and I felt my views were broadly reflected by the Liberals, I see no reason why I shouldn&#039;t join that party. The stigma that is currently assocoated with the word &quot;Islam&quot;, specially in the political spectrum, is one that must be challenged, for the sake of democracy.

Based on my views and beliefs, I would probably be classified as a conservative on certain issues and liberal on others. The fact that I&#039;m Jewish isn&#039;t the overriding factor in my political standpoint. Nor should it be. I should and will judge each issue on its own merit when I vote. I cannot just blindly vote for any &quot;Jewish&quot; candidate or any &quot;pro-Israel&quot; cadidate, as I do not support all things that bundled under the &quot;Jewish&quot; label nor am I pro-Israel on all issues.

Similarly, voters who are Muslim must also ensure that the candidate they vote for accurately represents their views, regardless of his/ger religion or supposed platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. To your first query of whether Muslim engagement with the political process is a good thing, I can only ask in return if you think democracy is a good thing. That is to say whether you feel you, as a citizen, should have an active say in how you&#8217;re governed. As a citizen, I would like to have my rights and liberties safeguarded and, therefore, will partake actively with the political process to ensure this. Should a citizen who happens to be Muslim be denied this right? Of course not. Therefore, yes Muslim engagement with the political process is a good thing if Muslim citizens wish to have a say in how they are governed.</p>
<p>As for your second query, I&#8217;m not entirely sure what you&#8217;re asking. If you&#8217;re questioning the concept of whether a political aspirant should be allowed to choose their specific political platform, then yes, absolutely. In a democracy that is truly representative, a political candidate must make his/her views, values and beliefs clear on a variety of subjects (conservation, civil rights, gun control etc.). It is then left to the electorate to vote and, thereby, indicate either their support for, or opposition against, these said views.<br />
Should these rights be denied to candidates who state their views are based on an “Islamic platform”? I see no reason why.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you&#8217;re asking whether these same candidates can benefit from the support of an established political party, then, again, absolutely. If I was a political aspirant and I felt my views were broadly reflected by the Liberals, I see no reason why I shouldn&#8217;t join that party. The stigma that is currently assocoated with the word &#8220;Islam&#8221;, specially in the political spectrum, is one that must be challenged, for the sake of democracy.</p>
<p>Based on my views and beliefs, I would probably be classified as a conservative on certain issues and liberal on others. The fact that I&#8217;m Jewish isn&#8217;t the overriding factor in my political standpoint. Nor should it be. I should and will judge each issue on its own merit when I vote. I cannot just blindly vote for any &#8220;Jewish&#8221; candidate or any &#8220;pro-Israel&#8221; cadidate, as I do not support all things that bundled under the &#8220;Jewish&#8221; label nor am I pro-Israel on all issues.</p>
<p>Similarly, voters who are Muslim must also ensure that the candidate they vote for accurately represents their views, regardless of his/ger religion or supposed platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Mussulmaan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-11853</link>
		<dc:creator>Mussulmaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sufi Muslim Council of Britan is what happens when governments fund munafiqs in our community to do their bidding

this site discussing the council in some detail
http://sufimuslimcouncil.blogspot.com/

this is a photo with the leader
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7940/3582/1600/hisham.jpg

he is also the spiritual advisor to the homocidal &quot;Islam Karamov&quot; of Uzbeckistan who wanted to name January after himself.

But after seeing a photo of &quot;Sheikh&quot; Kabbalah I can only think of his immense white beard.
somewhere in the Arctic circle there is a slightly bewildered Polar bear walking around with bare buttocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sufi Muslim Council of Britan is what happens when governments fund munafiqs in our community to do their bidding</p>
<p>this site discussing the council in some detail<br />
<a href="http://sufimuslimcouncil.blogspot.com/">http://sufimuslimcouncil.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>this is a photo with the leader<br />
<a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7940/3582/1600/hisham.jpg">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo.....hisham.jpg</a></p>
<p>he is also the spiritual advisor to the homocidal &#8220;Islam Karamov&#8221; of Uzbeckistan who wanted to name January after himself.</p>
<p>But after seeing a photo of &#8220;Sheikh&#8221; Kabbalah I can only think of his immense white beard.<br />
somewhere in the Arctic circle there is a slightly bewildered Polar bear walking around with bare buttocks.</p>
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		<title>By: sindbad</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/03/04/muslim-women-running-for-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-11781</link>
		<dc:creator>sindbad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaams,

Baybers: &quot;But the hotly contested award for the most dysfunctional Muslim political intervention in a western country goes to:
Drum roll please…….

Muslims for Bush&quot;

This group is different from others because it isn&#039;t doing it for money...I think, and is not really influentional and laughingly mocked at
as it should. These bunch of Muslims, on the other hand, have earned profitable contracts:

http://secularislam.org/blog/post/summit/3/Speakers

The Sufi Muslim Council is another money-grubbing self-appointed Muslim neocon group that has a peculiar habit of supporting war and sanctions against those damn &quot;Wahabbis&quot;, the scapegoats for everything that is wrong with any Muslim person or country and the bearers of innumerable myths about what the propagandist Bernard Lewis may refer to as &quot;Muslim rage&quot; against Western modernity.

About the sisters running for Parliament, way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaams,</p>
<p>Baybers: &#8220;But the hotly contested award for the most dysfunctional Muslim political intervention in a western country goes to:<br />
Drum roll please…….</p>
<p>Muslims for Bush&#8221;</p>
<p>This group is different from others because it isn&#8217;t doing it for money&#8230;I think, and is not really influentional and laughingly mocked at<br />
as it should. These bunch of Muslims, on the other hand, have earned profitable contracts:</p>
<p><a href="http://secularislam.org/blog/post/summit/3/Speakers">http://secularislam.org/blog/p.....3/Speakers</a></p>
<p>The Sufi Muslim Council is another money-grubbing self-appointed Muslim neocon group that has a peculiar habit of supporting war and sanctions against those damn &#8220;Wahabbis&#8221;, the scapegoats for everything that is wrong with any Muslim person or country and the bearers of innumerable myths about what the propagandist Bernard Lewis may refer to as &#8220;Muslim rage&#8221; against Western modernity.</p>
<p>About the sisters running for Parliament, way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Amir, what do you think is the best solution to the “rentier state” problem in the Middle East?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, it&#039;s a difficult problem because, for most of these countries, their comparative advantage lies in oil production.  Therfore, taking a Ricardian view of international trade, this is what these countries should be focused on.  As such, it&#039;s very easy to end up a rentier state because they simultaneously attempt to offer their constituents a defacto welfare state but without the taxation which usually accompanies it.

Obviously, there isn&#039;t much incentive for these countries to change their model but it seems one of the issues is that oil production and export is government-controlled.  Therefore, the government is the sole recipient of these resource rents and then redistributes a portion of that through the provision of its various services (services which might otherwise have been funded by taxation).  This isn&#039;t, in itself, a massive problem but where it becomes problematic is because the model lends itself well to authoritarianism because it means governments are neither accountable to their population through the ballot box or through taxation.

So, I think, one part of the solution has to be the privatisation of oil production and a liberalisation of that sector.  This has flow-on effects, of course, in that the government would either need to start taxing its citizens or start winding back some of its overt and covert welfare programs (an example of a covert program being the bloated and inefficient public service).  Naturally, I would prefer the latter ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Amir, what do you think is the best solution to the “rentier state” problem in the Middle East?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s a difficult problem because, for most of these countries, their comparative advantage lies in oil production.  Therfore, taking a Ricardian view of international trade, this is what these countries should be focused on.  As such, it&#8217;s very easy to end up a rentier state because they simultaneously attempt to offer their constituents a defacto welfare state but without the taxation which usually accompanies it.</p>
<p>Obviously, there isn&#8217;t much incentive for these countries to change their model but it seems one of the issues is that oil production and export is government-controlled.  Therefore, the government is the sole recipient of these resource rents and then redistributes a portion of that through the provision of its various services (services which might otherwise have been funded by taxation).  This isn&#8217;t, in itself, a massive problem but where it becomes problematic is because the model lends itself well to authoritarianism because it means governments are neither accountable to their population through the ballot box or through taxation.</p>
<p>So, I think, one part of the solution has to be the privatisation of oil production and a liberalisation of that sector.  This has flow-on effects, of course, in that the government would either need to start taxing its citizens or start winding back some of its overt and covert welfare programs (an example of a covert program being the bloated and inefficient public service).  Naturally, I would prefer the latter <img src='http://austrolabe.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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