what’s worse is the history of his divorce: he divorced her by saying “I divorce you” three times, and then less than a month later, rewrote the Turkish civil code saying that the Islamic divorce laws (which he’d just invoked to allow his divorce) were misogynistic. Err…?

Muslims need to correct our problems, and then we can correct the propaganda against us. But right now, we have clever tyrants and devious human shayateen, who exploit our own faults to split and weaken our societies…

Kama takunu yuwalla `alaykum. “As you are, so will your leaders be.”

http://www.breitbart.com/artic....._article=1

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/young_turks.html

A nation fearful of chewing gum infront of an idol of their god, would be scared of a woman in Hijab.

underneath that nice secular facade, its all pretty grim isn’t it?

KimArar, why don’t you go to wonderful secular turkey and try speaking Kurdish in the town square, then you can tell us about how liberated your granny was

My grandmother, who was pretty much LU’s contemporary, was also veiled. Then she tore it off.

Did she stop with the hijab or keep going?

The secular Turkish experiment has failed. Secular turkey has had 70 years to achieve something, anything and it has done nothing, except of course be a beggar at the gates of Europe.

If Turks overwhelming want a secular Turkey without any Islamic influence, why then do they repeatedly vote in Islamic parties, whenever they are given a choice? Why do the secular Turks always want to push their secularity down the throats of other Turks, by banning the way an individual dresses?

KimArar, your ideology of secular Turkic based nationalism is a sad failure, and will go down in the dust bin of history. Its actually ethnic fascism, if you happen to be an Armenian or a Kurd.

I suppose I am not entirely correct about the failure of Secular Turkey to advance any ideology, The young Turks did give the Nazis the template for the first modern genocide. Congratulations, Turkish modernism achieved something.

Well done! Fantastic! Find pictures of Latife Usakligil before it was *possible* for a woman to appear unveiled in public and then state that this was what she wanted. My grandmother, who was pretty much LU’s contemporary, was also veiled. Then she tore it off.

Congratulations on such disingenuity. But, unfortunately for you, the 70-odd million Turks who know LU rather better than you, may find this risible, just as the idea that my gram was a closet fundamentalist would seem weak to me.