Austrolabe Polls: Should the role of Mufti be abolished?

Should the position of Mufti of Australia be abolished?

  • Yes, the position of Mufti should be abolished. (62%, 58 Votes)
  • No, and I am happy with Sheikh Fehmi in the role. (14%, 13 Votes)
  • I don’t know. (9%, 8 Votes)
  • No, but I want Sheikh Taj to be in role. (8%, 7 Votes)
  • No, but I want someone else in the role. (8%, 7 Votes)

Total Voters: 93

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24 comments ↓

#1 Mohammed on 06.13.07 at 3:50 pm

The position should go. This is a step backwards. The National Council of Imams started off strongly and had enormous promise, but seems to have now crossed over into the realm of politics and media relations.

I have nothing against Sheikh Fehmi, but he is not my mufti.

#2 Amir on 06.13.07 at 4:03 pm

Mohammad, do you have any idea why they held the meeting in Melbourne?

#3 Mohammed on 06.13.07 at 4:50 pm

According to my sources, Sydney imams wanted to avoid a fallout with Sheikh Taj and his followers, some even fearing physical retribution from the more criminal elements among them. The consensus was this was the safest and most “diplomatic” way of achieving this.

#4 Omar on 06.13.07 at 4:58 pm

The media honeymoon with the new mufti will end pretty quickly when they realise that Imam Fahmi’s Preston Mosque is the centre for Salafiism in Melbourne.

#5 Amir on 06.13.07 at 5:07 pm

Mohammad, that’s what I heard too.

It just seems such a complete reversal on what the board had said up to this point: that the position of mufti would be abolished in favour of a president or chairman of a fiqh council. Any ideas what made them change and was there are a consensus or did some imams dissent? Any information would, as always, be much appreciated.

#6 Mohammed on 06.13.07 at 5:28 pm

I know of at least one imam who resigned in protest, which is not a great deal of dissent, really. There are other member imams who are not in favour of the position, so I would hope they lobby internally to gradually abolish it.

#7 Hassan on 06.14.07 at 9:28 am

Preston Mosque is 100% a Wahabi mosque. It’s the main Wahabi mosque in Australia!! Talk to the Tablighi brothers about how we were expelled from the mosque or just go look at the books they sell or the speakers they allow to speak there.

#8 sindbad on 06.14.07 at 3:45 pm

Hassan: “Preston Mosque is 100% a Wahabi mosque. It’s the main Wahabi mosque in Australia!! Talk to the Tablighi brothers about how we were expelled from the mosque or just go look at the books they sell or the speakers they allow to speak there.”

Salaams Hassan,

I faced no such problem when I visited. What books are you speaking of? Hate literature?

#9 Dragons on 06.14.07 at 4:07 pm

The books at Preston Msjid cannot be any worse than weak and inaccurate books distributed by the Tableeghis. But this is more about the mufti….a mufti in Australia is pure for the pleasure of politics - who can maximise more mileage out of it and win the next Federal election!!!

#10 dawood on 06.14.07 at 5:11 pm

The whole Mufti and “Imams Council” issues seem to bring everything back to pretty much where it started, except there is a new face to photograph.

The Imams Council - at least Sydney-side - is still the same old guard as before and is not exactly representative of all the Muslims who live here - I don’t see many Turks (if any), Bosnians, West Africans, or anyone else for that matter on the board but still see the same old crew from the Muslim “heartland”.

I thought it was meant to be more “representative” of the Muslim populace? Not to mention there are still issues relating to qualified and un-qualified Imams and so on which have not been resolved yet.

I was optimistic at first, but now am extremely pessimistic regarding how much use this council will actually be.

#11 sa on 06.14.07 at 9:32 pm

The shariah board is pretty light on English speakers and Turks. It’s a pity. Imam Fehmi got the gig because he was the only one who spoke English!

#12 Muwaaz on 06.15.07 at 2:52 pm

I think that sh omran should be mufti.

#13 shuaib on 06.15.07 at 4:36 pm

bahahahah… he would be worse than shk taj. not to mention hes a wahbi.

#14 Khaled on 06.15.07 at 4:42 pm

I think that Paris Hilton should be mufti. If the only qualification you need is a command of the English language, then one could argue that Paris as mufti is actually plausible.

#15 sindbad on 06.17.07 at 3:36 pm

It should be abolished. No questions asked. All those in love with muftis need not push their agenda on the majority of us who are struggling with a PR crisis already. The mufti has time and again become a symbol of that, portrayed by the media as such as to elicit prejudice against all Muslims. The Islamic notion of a scholar or mufti is incompatible with how it’s all in place.

#16 Dragons on 06.18.07 at 3:02 pm

Precisely we do not need a mufti or “Imam Council” because of comments like ‘he is a wahabi’, he is “this” and he is “that”.

Let’s us self-destruct!!!

#17 Gadfly on 06.18.07 at 6:12 pm

Sheikh Omran?!

Why don’t we just wear “I love Bin Laden” T-shirts to Jum’a every week?!

#18 Shadower on 06.19.07 at 1:11 pm

Just a comment on the sectarianistic comments in this thread, it is quite pathetic and disgusting. The Ummah as a whole seriously needs to grow up.

#19 dawood on 06.19.07 at 4:59 pm

What was sectarian here? Talking about having an Imams council that represents the diversity of Muslims in Australia - and the fact that as it stands now it does not do this - is hardly sectarian… :o/

#20 Amir on 06.19.07 at 6:06 pm

The fact that the Muslim community is divided into sects is one of the best reasons why the idea of a mufti is flawed and has never and will never achieve its intended purpose (as a primarily juristic role). The best that can be hoped for is to reconstruct the office of mufti as some kind of fluffy mascot that says nothing (and so cannot offend or alienate anyone) and whose purpose is merely to represent the Muslim community at government functions.

#21 Shadower on 06.19.07 at 10:11 pm

Dawood I was commenting on some of the comments made in this thread (attacking different Mosques and groups like children) not the initial post.

I agree the office of Mufti needs to be dropped. It does more to divide the community than unite it.

#22 Gadfly on 06.20.07 at 1:40 pm

Shadower,

Put the self-righteous act aside for a moment and try to envisage what a state we would be in if Sheikh Omran became Mufti. Did you see him on insight a few months ago? He could not even bring himself to say that rape is the fault of the offending party, even after the Sheikh Taj disaster. He kept saying it was the fault of both parites, on national television after they had crucified Sheikh Taj for it. Making reprehensible comments is one thing - not learning from mistakes is another.

#23 Shadower on 06.21.07 at 12:11 am

Gadfly: Then criticize the person himself, I have no issue with that, but what I have been reading is people attacking an entire group of Muslims, not personalities.

The criticism of a personality does not need to become a sectarian affair.

#24 Australian Muslims arrested in Lebanon on 06.28.07 at 5:18 am

“A FORMER Sydney taxi driver detained in Lebanon on suspicion of having links to terrorists has been identified as a possible leader of the al-Qa’ida-linked outfit, Fatah al-Islam.”
“Mr Chawk said his neighbour, who had moved from Sydney eight years ago, was a committed follower of the Salafi strand of Islam who kept a low profile in Tripoli with his wife and five children.”

nice very nice …

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