Abu Eesa has another outstanding post that should be required reading for anyone wishing to understand the situation in the UK as well as the intellectual pedigree of some of these ‘repentant’ Islamists who are appearing in the media. I am tempted to quote slabs of it here but I think it’s more important that people read it from beginning to end.
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Let’s not forget Abu Qatada was a frequent visitor to Australia too.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2003/s948864.htm
http://talk.islamicnetwork.com.....php?t=5329
But that was what the disorientated young women and men in Pakistan were doing. Why going from one “Sheikh” to another “Sheikh ” when the Truth is front of you?
[Qur'an 96:1]
When will we raise our children to become independent individuals and who take responsibility of their own lives, and let them know that no Sheikh — no matter how trustful he is— will not substitute for you on the Day of Judgement?
Let me show you a typical study programmes for a child in the Golden Age of Timbuktu and Andalusia:
“In the prime of my youth”!
Do you think that child when she/he grows up will be easily exposed to deception when it comes to Islam? Very unlikely.
And old is not gold, because Allah (swt) Gives Knowledge to whomever He Wishes–regardless age and sex.
In the early time of the Prophet (saw) he sent a 19 years old man alone to Yemen to teach the people Islam, because this young man was most knowledgeable in his community.
To put trust someone on your religion is not Islamic.
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,
You pick up on four words and ignore the context. His point is that Muslims should trust those who have been on the Straight Path for years, not some Johnny-come-lately like Hassan Butt who suddenly claims to have seen the light after years of promoting fitna. I don’t believe he was talking about old age anyway; he is talking about tradition and stability.
Wa’aleikum Salaam,
I have not diverted off the topic, and I think it is a sham you did not see the other points I have raised. So let’s not take criticism of Muslim clerics a way of criticizing Islam. My point never had been about Islam, but questioning the clerics who issue fatwas.
I give you an example from my daily life. Very often a post.doc. or my supervisor comes to me and tells me the latest informations on my project, which I’ll use them. Even though these people are well respected,”wise , stable, established and very old, I’ll never take their words if they not come up with evidences–meaning–sources. At same time, it’s my own responsibility to check after the sources, and learning to check after sources takes years of training–to understand the contents and the critical points, and some times we are not dealing with one field but many scientific fields.
Now, I’d never ever try to compare my job with Islam, but I hope you can see the seriousness. Clerics are human beings and not free from error like Engels. Even Umar (RA) has errored and was not embarrassed to be corrected in front of people.
The example of the study programme I gave you, shows you, it was meant to raise an independent person at the end. And to be an independent is also means to be critical. Although there might be some situations where you are dependent on a cleric for teaching, ex, Muslim converts or children, but should not be a permanent situation.
If you think, Islam is all about making search on Fatwa numbers, or Ahadith numbers (well, we live after all in Google age), then you are missing.. everything.
Who knew in Baghdad year ca. 670, a Bishop with his men will sit and having an interfaith dialogue with a Muslim shoemaker in his shop. I can guarantee you, no Muslim cleric today has 1/12 of the shoemaker’s knowledge on Islam. That is a guarantee!
Then why are you surprised to hear people who claim to have seen the “light”, and who have followers? Do you think that person would have any chances to find any followers in Baghdad 670?
Islam is free from error BUT not humans!
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