The Logic of the Situation?

And now for some comic relief…

Peter Faris, QC explains the “logic of the situation”:

1. It cannot be denied that (whatever the number) that there are some terrorists in Australia.
2. All or some of these terrorists are Muslims.
3. Thus there are Muslim terrorists in Australia.
4. A number of Australian Muslims support Islamic terrorism, to a greater or lesser extent.
5. All these terrorists and supporters live in the Austsralian Muslim community.
6. It is difficult if not impossible to identify in advance exactly who are terrorists and supporters.
7. Accordingly, as specific identification is impossible, all Australian Muslims must be treated with suspicion.
8. If all Muslims are treated as possible suspects, then there Civil Rights will inevitably be curtailed (in various ways).
9. These limitations are not the fault of the “racist”, mainstream Australians. It is the fault of Muslims themselves by permitting terrorists to live unidentified amongst them.

10 comments ↓

#1 UmMaryam on 07.20.07 at 1:33 pm

It’s all very logical if you are Peter Faris, I’ve heard him argue this point before on 3AW many times. If an apple is a fruit and an orange is a fruit well then apple=orange doesn’t it Mr Faris. But what’s really scary is that he is a practicing QC , I mean some people really have their lives in his hands-it’s scary

#2 AAA on 07.20.07 at 1:45 pm

Actually, as this famous case demonstrated, this sort of logic is very powerful in the court room.

#3 Andrew Reynolds on 07.20.07 at 2:01 pm

The problem with this logic is that you can replace the words “Muslim” or “Islamic” with “Christian” or any other belief system and it would be equally true.
In any case, step 5 requires what I feel is an unwarranted and incorrect assumption. Is there any such thing as a Muslim community any more than there is a Christian community or, for that matter an Atheist community – or are there several/many communities within the group of Australian residents and citizens who self-identify as Muslims?

#4 Antish on 07.20.07 at 2:03 pm

Can you fault his logic? I sincerely hope, for example, that airport security is not wasting timer screening Chinese grandmothers merely because they don’t want to appear discriminatory towards young men OMEA.

#5 Antish on 07.20.07 at 2:07 pm

Andrew Reynolds – you’ll have a hard time getting Muslims to agree that there are different groupings within the Australian Muslim community, an it’s almost impossible to get an Australian Muslim to publically criticise another Muslim. Muslims who do are generally castigated for ’spreading division’ and betraying the Ummah.

#6 Amir on 07.20.07 at 2:26 pm

Antish: Actually, we’ve argued repeatedly that there is no such thing as a unified Muslim community. For example, that is one of our principle arguments against the idea of a mufti as a single, central leader of Australian Muslims.

As for criticising other Muslims, then we do it all the time and we get criticised too. I don’t see this as an issue for most Muslims.

And as for profiling people OMEA, then I would think profiling behaviour makes more sense. If you just focus on scary looking people with long beards, then the terrorists will just recruit people without the dark skin and beards, and slip right under the radar.

#7 Sara Tancredi on 07.20.07 at 2:35 pm

I could pick on the “logic” of this superb piece of work, but I’m going to focus on a pettier issue and point out that Peter Faris needs a copy editor (aside from many other things).

#8 Sara Tancredi on 07.20.07 at 3:11 pm

1. It cannot be denied that (whatever the number) there are some badly behaved people in Australia.
2. All or some of these badly behaved people are Australian citizens.
3. Thus there are badly behaved Australian citizens in Australia.
4. A number of Australians support bad behaviour, to a greater or lesser extent.
5. All these badly behaved people and supporters live in the Australian community.
6. It is difficult if not impossible to identify in advance exactly who are badly behaved people and supporters.
7. Accordingly, as specific identification is impossible, all Australian citizens must be treated with suspicion.
8. If all Australian people are treated as possible suspects, then their civil rights will inevitably be curtailed (in various ways).
9. These limitations are not the fault of the “well-behaved” mainstream Australians. It is the fault of Australian citizens themselves by permitting badly behaved people to live unidentified amongst them.

#9 Yusuf Smith on 07.21.07 at 7:15 am

Does anyone else notice that the QC’s surname is Faris? This suggests that he is of Lebanese or perhaps Egyptian Christian origin – I wonder how recent – and among professional Islamophobes in the media (particularly in the USA) there are quite a few people of such background; Walid “Phares” is one of the best known.

#10 Henry Woodhouse on 07.21.07 at 8:18 am

There is a good profile of him here.

If I didn’t know who he was, I’d see his picture and say straight away that he’s an Arab. The beard makes him look like a Muslim too.

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