Comments on: Terrorism and the Tablighi Jamaat http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/ Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Mohammed http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-39195 Mohammed Wed, 08 Aug 2007 05:31:45 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-39195 Well my dear fellow muslim brethren, it's high time we give some serious thought about the news report. we should never forget that inorder to deceive someone it is extremely important to be one of his most trusted.We only get deceived by those whom we trust, for it would be foolish to be deceived by open enemy. First of all, most of muslim ummah has no fundamental understanding of Islam at all, and when we donot have sound knowledge of fundamentals of Islam how can we know of unislamic ideologies hidden under guise of Islam. There is fair bit of reality in what Gohel says. wake up oh! Muslims from slumber of misunderstandings, in world where what you see is not what it is in reality. Or else we would be in great loss in this world and hereafter for negligence and lacking in understanding of the religion taught by Prophet Mohammed SAWS, when every fine detail of the religion was explained by prophet and is preserved forever, we donot have to be defenders of false ideologies and propagators. Well my dear fellow muslim brethren, it’s high time we give some serious thought about the news report.
we should never forget that inorder to deceive someone it is extremely important to be one of his most trusted.We only get deceived by those whom we trust, for it would be foolish to be deceived by open enemy. First of all, most of muslim ummah has no fundamental understanding of Islam at all, and when we donot have sound knowledge of fundamentals of Islam how can we know of unislamic ideologies hidden under guise of Islam.
There is fair bit of reality in what Gohel says. wake up oh! Muslims from slumber of misunderstandings, in world where what you see is not what it is in reality.
Or else we would be in great loss in this world and hereafter for negligence and lacking in understanding of the religion taught by Prophet Mohammed SAWS, when every fine detail of the religion was explained by prophet and is preserved forever, we donot have to be defenders of false ideologies and propagators.

]]> By: James http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-38641 James Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:04:28 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-38641 Amir what do you expect from a "news" industry that spawned Rupert Murdoch? (And by the way, thanks for foisting him on our fair country.) Our news industry is also chock-a-block these so-called experts. It's all about keeping the drooling masses glued to the Telly. On this side of the big blue Rupert's other T.V. station, Fox News (or as we love to call it Faux Noise) had a bit about lesbian gang-bangers. I kid you not! Fox Noise's "expert" ? the station's security guard. Us progressives had a field-day holding Mr. Murdoch's "news" channel to ridicule. Fox had to drop the story since it was made of whole cloth. Not that Fox has learned anything. It keeps putting out the same tired NeoCon talking points, made by the same tired "experts", spewing the same tired old lies. This ABC expert is in the same league as Richard Perl et al. It is the same arrogant collection of know-it-alls who whispered sweet nothings into Dick Cheney's ear. But they will get air time because they say outrageous things. That will drum up viewership. It will keep those eyes glued to the screen. That is what it is all about these days, making sure the unwashed masses don't change the channel; got to make sure they stay tuned to watch the Vegemite commercials. Amir what do you expect from a “news” industry that spawned Rupert Murdoch? (And by the way, thanks for foisting him on our fair country.) Our news industry is also chock-a-block these so-called experts. It’s all about keeping the drooling masses glued to the Telly. On this side of the big blue Rupert’s other T.V. station, Fox News (or as we love to call it Faux Noise) had a bit about lesbian gang-bangers. I kid you not! Fox Noise’s “expert” ? the station’s security guard. Us progressives had a field-day holding Mr. Murdoch’s “news” channel to ridicule. Fox had to drop the story since it was made of whole cloth.

Not that Fox has learned anything. It keeps putting out the same tired NeoCon talking points, made by the same tired “experts”, spewing the same tired old lies.
This ABC expert is in the same league as Richard Perl et al. It is the same arrogant collection of know-it-alls who whispered sweet nothings into Dick Cheney’s ear. But they will get air time because they say outrageous things. That will drum up viewership. It will keep those eyes glued to the screen. That is what it is all about these days, making sure the unwashed masses don’t change the channel; got to make sure they stay tuned to watch the Vegemite commercials.

]]> By: pommygranate http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-38602 pommygranate Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:39:53 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-38602 Amir What do the Tablighis stand for then? I understand that most of the Pakistani cricket team are Tablighi Muslims. Is this right? Amir

What do the Tablighis stand for then?

I understand that most of the Pakistani cricket team are Tablighi Muslims. Is this right?

]]> By: thabet http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-38533 thabet Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:41:20 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-38533 According to a survey I just made up 95% of Muslim terrorists have drunk Coca-Cola at some point in their lives. I think we should move to ban Coca-Cola, the real root cause of terrorism. According to a survey I just made up 95% of Muslim terrorists have drunk Coca-Cola at some point in their lives. I think we should move to ban Coca-Cola, the real root cause of terrorism.

]]> By: null http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-38507 null Thu, 02 Aug 2007 06:26:28 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-38507 I dunno, I think tablighs have been known to bore people to death. Could this be the latest strategy in Islamic terrorism? I dunno, I think tablighs have been known to bore people to death. Could this be the latest strategy in Islamic terrorism?

]]> By: UmMaryam http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-38506 UmMaryam Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:47:40 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-38506 I couldn't believe the inaccuracies in that episode of Dateline by this Gohel guy. But nothing suprises anymore. They failed to note that this same Jamat has been living peacefully in Australia since the late 60's early 70's-well before 9/11. The way things are reported nowadays you won't be able to attend your local Jumah prayer because it implicates you are part of the Muslim community! I couldn’t believe the inaccuracies in that episode of Dateline by this Gohel guy.
But nothing suprises anymore. They failed to note that this same Jamat has been living peacefully in Australia since the late 60’s early 70’s-well before 9/11.

The way things are reported nowadays you won’t be able to attend your local Jumah prayer because it implicates you are part of the Muslim community!

]]> By: Yakoub http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/comment-page-1/#comment-38505 Yakoub Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:42:13 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/02/terrorism-and-the-tablighi-jamaat/#comment-38505 It comes as no surprise that some of the suicide bombers who lived in Dewsbury had connections with Tablighi - it would be impossible not to when you live in the same town as Tablighi's European HQ (although to call it an "HQ" implies a centralization of organisation which in fact Tablighi doesn't possess). Mosques that actually define themselves as Tablighi abound in the county in which Dewsbury is located (my home county, West Yorkshire). However, Tablighi here is not uncommon in that is 'sectarian' stance is generally the same as that of it's founder, Muhammad Ilyas, which is Deobandi. Finally, far from demanding Caliphates, most Tablighi I have met are other-wordly and conservative, berating the distractions of Dunya. Indeed, when news team asked to film in the Dewsbury madrassa, they were refused because some scholars there still denounce televisual representations. Jihadis are generally quite modernist in their attitude towards new technologies. It comes as no surprise that some of the suicide bombers who lived in Dewsbury had connections with Tablighi – it would be impossible not to when you live in the same town as Tablighi’s European HQ (although to call it an “HQ” implies a centralization of organisation which in fact Tablighi doesn’t possess).

Mosques that actually define themselves as Tablighi abound in the county in which Dewsbury is located (my home county, West Yorkshire). However, Tablighi here is not uncommon in that is ’sectarian’ stance is generally the same as that of it’s founder, Muhammad Ilyas, which is Deobandi.

Finally, far from demanding Caliphates, most Tablighi I have met are other-wordly and conservative, berating the distractions of Dunya. Indeed, when news team asked to film in the Dewsbury madrassa, they were refused because some scholars there still denounce televisual representations. Jihadis are generally quite modernist in their attitude towards new technologies.

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