Comments on: Paradise Glossed http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/ Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: pommygranate http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/comment-page-1/#comment-39072 pommygranate Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:42:29 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/#comment-39072 Trash culture rules!! Trash culture rules!!

]]> By: T Cell http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/comment-page-1/#comment-38893 T Cell Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:55:08 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/#comment-38893 Come over to the dark side Antish, you know you want to. Put aside your sceptic's mask. BTW, I don't regard the wearing of revealing clothing as marking one for the hell-fire, merely as inappropriate. People and societies have differed on this. Where one sets the bar as to the affront to public decency is all culturally contextual. Surely you would agree that the wearing grey zip-up shoes, a ponytail and a shiny suit merits a flogging. Come over to the dark side Antish, you know you want to. Put aside your sceptic’s mask.

BTW, I don’t regard the wearing of revealing clothing as marking one for the hell-fire, merely as inappropriate. People and societies have differed on this.

Where one sets the bar as to the affront to public decency is all culturally contextual. Surely you would agree that the wearing grey zip-up shoes, a ponytail and a shiny suit merits a flogging.

]]> By: Antish http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/comment-page-1/#comment-38888 Antish Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:01:20 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/#comment-38888 I understand that - I'm also criticising it as *ahem* silly. You can't posibly regard a ballet dancer as Hell-bound merely for wearing leotards, for example. Well, you might, but it's absurd. I understand that – I’m also criticising it as *ahem* silly. You can’t posibly regard a ballet dancer as Hell-bound merely for wearing leotards, for example. Well, you might, but it’s absurd.

]]> By: T Cell http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/comment-page-1/#comment-38874 T Cell Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:08:35 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/#comment-38874 A good point, my perspective is that the cultural context is irrelevant, but rather it is the actual display that is problematic A good point, my perspective is that the cultural context is irrelevant, but rather it is the actual display that is problematic

]]> By: Antish http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/comment-page-1/#comment-38873 Antish Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:51:48 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/#comment-38873 Note, though, that people who regard Britney et al as trash for the peasants would not put (say) ballet dancers in skin-tights, athletes in ditto, artworks depicting naked people and so on in the same camp. Ms Devine is arguing against bad taste not against the human body on display. Note, though, that people who regard Britney et al as trash for the peasants would not put (say) ballet dancers in skin-tights, athletes in ditto, artworks depicting naked people and so on in the same camp. Ms Devine is arguing against bad taste not against the human body on display.

]]> By: T Cell http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/comment-page-1/#comment-38870 T Cell Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:32:43 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/05/paradise-glossed/#comment-38870 Miranda Devine goes on to echo an imbecilic claim made by the immigration minister, that Haneef has a responsibility to "front the media". Any credibility she has as a journalist or commentator is undermined by her willingness to die in the ditch as a second rate spokesman for the Howard government. A private citizen such as Haneef has no duty to speak to the media, nor should he feel compelled to do so. It is sufficient to see that Andrews, (whose is compelled to do so) perform it with the characteristic incompetence he brings to every task. As for Devine, it is the manifest failure of her religion to be taken seriously in the west that has allowed this objectification to occur. Miranda Devine goes on to echo an imbecilic claim made by the immigration minister, that Haneef has a responsibility to “front the media”.

Any credibility she has as a journalist or commentator is undermined by her willingness to die in the ditch as a second rate spokesman for the Howard government.

A private citizen such as Haneef has no duty to speak to the media, nor should he feel compelled to do so. It is sufficient to see that Andrews, (whose is compelled to do so) perform it with the characteristic incompetence he brings to every task.

As for Devine, it is the manifest failure of her religion to be taken seriously in the west that has allowed this objectification to occur.

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