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		<title>By: LDU</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-40191</link>
		<dc:creator>LDU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody oath, Baybers&#039; pretty good at owning this Antish guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody oath, Baybers&#8217; pretty good at owning this Antish guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Baybers</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-40189</link>
		<dc:creator>Baybers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 05:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ant,

There are some of us that really want your attempt at the whole &quot;liberal enlightenment critique&quot; thingy to work, but you just have to do better. It appears as if your heart just is not in it anymore.

Firstly the whole &quot;sex driven suicide bombing&quot; thesis was blown apart after we attacked it and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://austrolabe.com/2007/07/13/psychology-today-suicide-bombers-are-trying-to-mate/&quot;&gt;author wrote an email&lt;/a&gt; to this web-site saying he was misquoted. To bring it up is embarrassing for you because it shows that you either do not read, or worse, do not comprehend relatively straightforward concepts.

Secondly, if you were better educated you would have come back at me with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman&quot;&gt;Tillman brothers&lt;/a&gt; as exemplars of moral courage, but since you aren&#039;t I have to provide the critique myself.

Thirdly calling God &quot;dog&quot; is hardly likely to provoke anyone here, and what&#039;s more it reveals a lot about you since it comes from a cartoon in this week&#039;s Spectator (page 22), and suggests that all &quot;your&quot; opinions are pre-digested.

Fourthly, do you really want to get into a debate about &lt;a href=&quot;http://althouse.blogspot.com/2007/04/seamans-tale-they-took-his-ipod-and.html&quot;&gt;contemporary British military courage&lt;/a&gt;?

Now try it again, and this time with some feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ant,</p>
<p>There are some of us that really want your attempt at the whole &#8220;liberal enlightenment critique&#8221; thingy to work, but you just have to do better. It appears as if your heart just is not in it anymore.</p>
<p>Firstly the whole &#8220;sex driven suicide bombing&#8221; thesis was blown apart after we attacked it and the <a href="http://austrolabe.com/2007/07/13/psychology-today-suicide-bombers-are-trying-to-mate/">author wrote an email</a> to this web-site saying he was misquoted. To bring it up is embarrassing for you because it shows that you either do not read, or worse, do not comprehend relatively straightforward concepts.</p>
<p>Secondly, if you were better educated you would have come back at me with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman">Tillman brothers</a> as exemplars of moral courage, but since you aren&#8217;t I have to provide the critique myself.</p>
<p>Thirdly calling God &#8220;dog&#8221; is hardly likely to provoke anyone here, and what&#8217;s more it reveals a lot about you since it comes from a cartoon in this week&#8217;s Spectator (page 22), and suggests that all &#8220;your&#8221; opinions are pre-digested.</p>
<p>Fourthly, do you really want to get into a debate about <a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2007/04/seamans-tale-they-took-his-ipod-and.html">contemporary British military courage</a>?</p>
<p>Now try it again, and this time with some feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinna</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39873</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Western Way of War always involved getting foreign mercenaries or the lower classes to do the fighting for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Western Way of War always involved getting foreign mercenaries or the lower classes to do the fighting for them.</p>
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		<title>By: IM</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39846</link>
		<dc:creator>IM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what exactly is wrong with being a deeply macho warrior with a tribal world view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what exactly is wrong with being a deeply macho warrior with a tribal world view?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Tancredi</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39840</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Tancredi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let’s face it, the sentiments behind the article are those of a deeply macho/warrior/tribal world-view, and if we can’t sneer (or pout) at thatm things have come to a pretty pass.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, OK, but just remember that if the wind changes, your face will stay that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let’s face it, the sentiments behind the article are those of a deeply macho/warrior/tribal world-view, and if we can’t sneer (or pout) at thatm things have come to a pretty pass.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, OK, but just remember that if the wind changes, your face will stay that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39839</link>
		<dc:creator>Antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it seems to be Hollywood that defines the Astrolabe article&#039;s idea of &#039;manly&#039; or &#039;heroic&#039; or whatever it is positing against the &#039;cowardly&#039; US white folks.

Let&#039;s face it, the sentiments behind the article are those of a deeply macho/warrior/tribal world-view, and if we can&#039;t sneer (or pout) at thatm things have come to a pretty pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it seems to be Hollywood that defines the Astrolabe article&#8217;s idea of &#8216;manly&#8217; or &#8216;heroic&#8217; or whatever it is positing against the &#8216;cowardly&#8217; US white folks.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, the sentiments behind the article are those of a deeply macho/warrior/tribal world-view, and if we can&#8217;t sneer (or pout) at thatm things have come to a pretty pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Tancredi</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39834</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Tancredi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antish, childish pouts aren&#039;t cute when they&#039;re a fixed expression.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s generally in response to silliness like the implicit “what the US does defines Westernism”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re right. We all know it&#039;s actually Hollywood that defines everything Western. I mean, for me, it doesn&#039;t get much more definitive than Die Hard and Rules of Engagement.

You should hire them out if you haven&#039;t seen them. The courtroom scenes in the latter are a real corker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antish, childish pouts aren&#8217;t cute when they&#8217;re a fixed expression.</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s generally in response to silliness like the implicit “what the US does defines Westernism”.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right. We all know it&#8217;s actually Hollywood that defines everything Western. I mean, for me, it doesn&#8217;t get much more definitive than Die Hard and Rules of Engagement.</p>
<p>You should hire them out if you haven&#8217;t seen them. The courtroom scenes in the latter are a real corker.</p>
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		<title>By: Antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39827</link>
		<dc:creator>Antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My childish pout is cute, though. It&#039;s generally in response to silliness like the implicit &quot;what the US does defines Westernism&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My childish pout is cute, though. It&#8217;s generally in response to silliness like the implicit &#8220;what the US does defines Westernism&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Tancredi</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39756</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Tancredi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antish,

There&#039;s a recurring theme with your comments - they&#039;re always the written equivalent of a childish pout. 

I think you need a hug. Until then, try and be constructive with your regular &quot;commentary&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antish,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a recurring theme with your comments &#8211; they&#8217;re always the written equivalent of a childish pout. </p>
<p>I think you need a hug. Until then, try and be constructive with your regular &#8220;commentary&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2007/08/13/the-western-way-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-39723</link>
		<dc:creator>Antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But anyway ... the &#039;Western&#039; in the headline is plain silly. the big complaint about the Australian army is that it DOESN&#039;T encourage non-Anglo-Celtics to join. Less so in the UK, perhaps, but non-Anglos aren&#039;t disproportionally represented. Ditto every other &#039;western&#039; country I can think of, except the US.  The thing you&#039;re complaining about is class, not race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But anyway &#8230; the &#8216;Western&#8217; in the headline is plain silly. the big complaint about the Australian army is that it DOESN&#8217;T encourage non-Anglo-Celtics to join. Less so in the UK, perhaps, but non-Anglos aren&#8217;t disproportionally represented. Ditto every other &#8216;western&#8217; country I can think of, except the US.  The thing you&#8217;re complaining about is class, not race.</p>
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