I thought he was referring to
Baskin Robbins rocky road ice cream, or perhaps a tarantino film, or perhaps ann coulter.

One mans “hardline” is another mans…

Once again there is an unfortunate temptation to silence voices that we disagree with. What if I determined that you were an impossibly progressive liberal who was not a real muslim and therefore your contact with the adult muslim community should be limited?

Clearly that would be a childlike response, and yet when we mention “hardline” then all measure of the same adult nannying becomes legitimate.

So you hope to limit the contact with foreigners whop say things that you do not agree with? well what are you going to do about the internet? Are you going to start banning websites that say things that you don’t like?

Is this beginning to sound like china or north korea?

Vrig, I’m sure you can put a better solution up than that.

Nevertheless, I think he made a valid point (albeit not in the most eloquent of ways.. garage?). When Fadi mentioned the “hardline overseas influences”, I’m thinking he’s reffering to the tablighi jamaat. Here in Melbourne, I find them at mosques all too often. They may have good intentions, but whenever they preach they make as though it’s you against the misguided Non-Muslim Western society surrounding you. This kind of da’wah is counterconstructive for Australian Muslims and encourages extremism by creating adversaries and breeding hatred.

Fadi Rahman wants foreign preachers restrained, and so do I. They simply pop in, and pop out without regard to the long-term implications of their da’wah. We need endogenous Australian Muslim preachers to lead us towards peaceful living.

Also, Dawud: “There isn’t a problem with extremism in Australia” ??!!

How has Fadi done anything constructive? If he has actionable intelligence about extremism, he should go to ASIO, if he has knowledge of a crime he should go to the police. How does going to a newspaper journalist help anything? What material steps have occurred since this article has been published? How is the community safer?

In the past I would have ignored a fadi rahman, but over the last few years this type of person has done untold damage to the muslim community and I now consider it my religious duty take these people to task.

I am afraid that I agree with the sentiment that this is a very typical response from a class of self appointed community leader who talks up risk and threat, whilst offering himself to the govt as sole the agent of rescue.

These guys are a dime a dozen in western Sydney. Last week it was MKA and his ticking time bomb report that he hasn’t published yet

This will follow a pattern where the person involved will now claim that he was misquoted.

It is not surprising that these people become “useful idiots” for the Murdoch press. This story will fold into the news cycle for the next 24 hours and give comrade howard a free kick on national security.

I was immediately reminded of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaiSHcHM0PA

Why do we need to listen to this parade of comic book characters on anything? If fadi has any knowledge of a criminal act or conspiracy to commit one then he should tell the police, if he wants money then he should line up outside centerlink, or even (what about this for a radical idea?): get a job Maaaaaaaaaaattttteeeeeeeeee.