Comments on: The anti-Ron Paul Coalition http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/ Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:21:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: antish http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-61902 antish Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:53:33 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-61902 I didn't think you were Muslim - you're here because the blog supported libertarian candidates in the Oz federal election, aren't you? 'An Islamic State' meaning the pie-in-the-sky Caliphate, or an actual state claiming to be an Islamic state? Either way, you'll find that the 'no taxes' rhetoric is the same as the 'no interest' rhetoric - economic/linguistic sleight-of-hand means that Islamic states can afford standing armies, public roads and so on, just as anti-interest banks will lend you money for a 'fee'. I didn’t think you were Muslim – you’re here because the blog supported libertarian candidates in the Oz federal election, aren’t you?

‘An Islamic State’ meaning the pie-in-the-sky Caliphate, or an actual state claiming to be an Islamic state? Either way, you’ll find that the ‘no taxes’ rhetoric is the same as the ‘no interest’ rhetoric – economic/linguistic sleight-of-hand means that Islamic states can afford standing armies, public roads and so on, just as anti-interest banks will lend you money for a ‘fee’.

]]> By: touchstone http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-61639 touchstone Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:13:23 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-61639 I'd say an Islamic state would be at least fiscally conservative seeing how taxes are strictly forbidden. Oh, and what made you think I was muslim? 0_o I’d say an Islamic state would be at least fiscally conservative seeing how taxes are strictly forbidden.

Oh, and what made you think I was muslim? 0_o

]]> By: antish http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-61553 antish Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:46:56 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-61553 You know, I'd get a lot more involved in this if it wasn't that I keep breaking into chukles, saying "Muslims? For libertariansm?!?" The nanniest of nanny states is nothing compared to the nanny religion of Islam. How many pixels have died in the arguments about how to wash socks? Anyway, I'l lke to debate libertarians in a forum that was actually about it - anyone know a URL? You know, I’d get a lot more involved in this if it wasn’t that I keep breaking into chukles, saying “Muslims? For libertariansm?!?”

The nanniest of nanny states is nothing compared to the nanny religion of Islam. How many pixels have died in the arguments about how to wash socks?

Anyway, I’l lke to debate libertarians in a forum that was actually about it – anyone know a URL?

]]> By: touchstone http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-61424 touchstone Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:21:07 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-61424 Attention all: Ron Paul has been excluded from the NH primaries debate by Faux news. Flood their pages! Make them pay! Liberty or Death! Ron Paul 08! http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2007/12/09/republican-presidential-debate-hosted-by-fox-news/#comment-17959 Attention all:

Ron Paul has been excluded from the NH primaries debate by Faux news. Flood their pages! Make them pay! Liberty or Death! Ron Paul 08!

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com.....ment-17959

]]> By: touchstone http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-61420 touchstone Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:17:03 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-61420 Libertarianism is not social darwinism or anarcho-capitalism. F.A. Hayek, who I believe is the primary authority on the matter mentions in the road to serfdom that government regulation for protection of the environment is necessary. So is minimal economic security. What Libertarianism is against is the "planning of the economy" which inevitably leads to inefficiency, serfdom and ultimately communism and fascism. Libertarianism is not social darwinism or anarcho-capitalism. F.A. Hayek, who I believe is the primary authority on the matter mentions in the road to serfdom that government regulation for protection of the environment is necessary. So is minimal economic security. What Libertarianism is against is the “planning of the economy” which inevitably leads to inefficiency, serfdom and ultimately communism and fascism.

]]> By: James http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-61017 James Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:38:55 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-61017 Mixed Market/ Keynesian every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Libertarianism leads inevitably to Social Darwinism and gilded age excess. It inevitably leads to the dark satanic mills of Dickens England. Without regulation Capitalism will always be self destructive. The reason Dr Paul is getting slagged right now is because he said some very stupid things. The man suffers from a serious case of foot-in-mouth disease. He is a deeply ideological person almost rigidly so. It's part of his appeal, you know he isn't sugar coating anything he says-he believes every word he utters. But what he believes in is shear madness; rugged individualism is not the cure for our ills. We have to build new ways to cooperate not compete. That ticking you hear in the background is the great CO2 alarm clock and it is about to go off. Mixed Market/ Keynesian every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Libertarianism leads inevitably to Social Darwinism and gilded age excess. It inevitably leads to the dark satanic mills of Dickens England. Without regulation Capitalism will always be self destructive.

The reason Dr Paul is getting slagged right now is because he said some very stupid things. The man suffers from a serious case of foot-in-mouth disease. He is a deeply ideological person almost rigidly so. It’s part of his appeal, you know he isn’t sugar coating anything he says-he believes every word he utters. But what he believes in is shear madness; rugged individualism is not the cure for our ills. We have to build new ways to cooperate not compete. That ticking you hear in the background is the great CO2 alarm clock and it is about to go off.

]]> By: touchstone http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-60842 touchstone Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:17:17 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-60842 Libertarianism: Pay for what you use, government takes their filthy hands out of your pocket. Mixed Market/ Keynesian: Government steals form everyone to use on services some people may never use. You tell me which is more efficient. Libertarianism: Pay for what you use, government takes their filthy hands out of your pocket.

Mixed Market/ Keynesian: Government steals form everyone to use on services some people may never use.

You tell me which is more efficient.

]]> By: antish http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-60199 antish Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:54:58 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-60199 Hmm - list me (say) six mainstream (ie not cherry picking from the sort of stuff that Andrew Bolt goes after) policies that aren't sensible. You will be able to find policies that I don't agree with, no doubt, but none that I think we would be better off doing away with government over. I wish we employed more 'public servants' to actually enforce those policies regarding tree clearing (as you'll have noted, the environment is my area of concern), toxic discharge, illegal fishing and so on. "Most people are intelligent and mature enough to decide what to do with their own money " Yeah? So why the obesity epidemic? Why the growing number of critically endangered species? However, you are right in that almost everyone (how did the libertarians do in the election?) agrees to fund a management team to research and (yes) make the tough decisions. It's called 'government'. It's us. Hmm – list me (say) six mainstream (ie not cherry picking from the sort of stuff that Andrew Bolt goes after) policies that aren’t sensible. You will be able to find policies that I don’t agree with, no doubt, but none that I think we would be better off doing away with government over.

I wish we employed more ‘public servants’ to actually enforce those policies regarding tree clearing (as you’ll have noted, the environment is my area of concern), toxic discharge, illegal fishing and so on.

“Most people are intelligent and mature enough to decide what to do with their own money ”

Yeah? So why the obesity epidemic? Why the growing number of critically endangered species?

However, you are right in that almost everyone (how did the libertarians do in the election?) agrees to fund a management team to research and (yes) make the tough decisions. It’s called ‘government’. It’s us.

]]> By: GMan http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-60198 GMan Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:54:46 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-60198 I'm not sure America can survive four more years of a president whose religious beliefs don't allow him to believe in evolution. The religious nutters waiting on their precious "end times" are getting enough of a run in way too many countries already. In any case, Ron Paul won't be entering the White House. "Muslim apostate Obama..."? I'm sure he would beg to differ. I’m not sure America can survive four more years of a president whose religious beliefs don’t allow him to believe in evolution. The religious nutters waiting on their precious “end times” are getting enough of a run in way too many countries already. In any case, Ron Paul won’t be entering the White House. “Muslim apostate Obama…”? I’m sure he would beg to differ.

]]> By: Teflon http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-60089 Teflon Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:21:18 +0000 http://austrolabe.com/2007/12/27/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-60089 That's ridiculous. Most government policies are not sensible and a lot of the money they steal from you just goes to pay for the public servants who administer the stealing. I don't know what you are so scared of Antish. Most people are intelligent and mature enough to decide what to do with their own money and don't need some pen pushing thief in Washington or Canberra to do it for them. That’s ridiculous. Most government policies are not sensible and a lot of the money they steal from you just goes to pay for the public servants who administer the stealing. I don’t know what you are so scared of Antish. Most people are intelligent and mature enough to decide what to do with their own money and don’t need some pen pushing thief in Washington or Canberra to do it for them.

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