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	<title>Comments on: Three Little Pigs: Offensive to Muslims?</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-66089</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pigs: ham, bacon, pork chops, barbecue, sweet and sour pork-yum!  Er, sorry that was incorrect wasn&#039;t it?

Just a quick question exactly how many pigs are in the building trades?  Exactly how are real pigs supposed to hold a hammer in their hooves?  It&#039;s a flipping children&#039;s story, relax!  Or is next outrage going to be about the frog prince?  What was a good moral woman doing running about escorted, harlot!  Why is this women speaking to male (of a different species) in the first place! Scandal, she wantonly kisses this smooth talking frog and marries him!  She should have been a proper woman and had her parents arrange a proper marriage the evil, loose, immoral woman!  Don&#039;t get me started about that floozy  &quot;sleeping beauty!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pigs: ham, bacon, pork chops, barbecue, sweet and sour pork-yum!  Er, sorry that was incorrect wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Just a quick question exactly how many pigs are in the building trades?  Exactly how are real pigs supposed to hold a hammer in their hooves?  It&#8217;s a flipping children&#8217;s story, relax!  Or is next outrage going to be about the frog prince?  What was a good moral woman doing running about escorted, harlot!  Why is this women speaking to male (of a different species) in the first place! Scandal, she wantonly kisses this smooth talking frog and marries him!  She should have been a proper woman and had her parents arrange a proper marriage the evil, loose, immoral woman!  Don&#8217;t get me started about that floozy  &#8220;sleeping beauty!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GMan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65574</link>
		<dc:creator>GMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind badgers, what about hedgehogs?</description>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65417</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about badgers?  Why doesn&#039;t anyone speak out for the badgers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about badgers?  Why doesn&#8217;t anyone speak out for the badgers?</p>
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		<title>By: sdfsdf</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65373</link>
		<dc:creator>sdfsdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God Austrolabe is back.  I&#039;ve missed this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God Austrolabe is back.  I&#8217;ve missed this!</p>
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		<title>By: antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65359</link>
		<dc:creator>antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &#039;non-no&#039; I of course mean &#039;no-no&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8216;non-no&#8217; I of course mean &#8216;no-no&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65358</link>
		<dc:creator>antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m curious. Is it actually pigs that are offensive or the aura of &#039;Ha ha silly Muslims/Jews won&#039;t eat pigs&quot; that surrounds the subject and makes it amorphously touchy? Being hit with footwear is a pretty dire insult in some countries - if this was picked-up on by xenophobic media,  &#039;shoes&#039; would perhaps become a non-no subject in certain circles, as are pigs in other circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m curious. Is it actually pigs that are offensive or the aura of &#8216;Ha ha silly Muslims/Jews won&#8217;t eat pigs&#8221; that surrounds the subject and makes it amorphously touchy? Being hit with footwear is a pretty dire insult in some countries &#8211; if this was picked-up on by xenophobic media,  &#8217;shoes&#8217; would perhaps become a non-no subject in certain circles, as are pigs in other circles.</p>
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		<title>By: svend</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65274</link>
		<dc:creator>svend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, another pig controversy.  

Not that this justifies the stereotyping of Muslims, but a lot of Muslims have inherited a rather knee jerk aversion to all things porcine with the mother&#039;s milk. Shoot, my father&#039;s a convert and he has acquired the customary instinctive reaction against pig-related things (including *metaphors*--he once objected to my innocent observation one day that he&#039;d &quot;pigged out&quot; at an all-you-can-eat buffet). 

I don&#039; t know the particulars of this case and in this climate one can obviously easily cross the line into caricature, but I hate to say that well-meaning non-Muslims&#039; anxieties about offending Muslims aren&#039;t entirely unfounded here. Those of us who find this whole thing embarrassing might need to cut well meaning outsiders some slack--how are they supposed to know where the line is? We most certainly do have hangups about the critters.

I blogged about pigs a while ago, for those interested:
http://akramsrazor.typepad.com/islam_america/2006/10/one_mans_passag_1.html

Would love to join in the discussion, but most of these comments are too witty, ironic or obscure for me to follow. Maybe it&#039;s a pan-British Commonwealth between you Brits and Aussies and I&#039;m not supposed to understand...

Oops, rather than blogging about pigs, I should probably get my tail to juma!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, another pig controversy.  </p>
<p>Not that this justifies the stereotyping of Muslims, but a lot of Muslims have inherited a rather knee jerk aversion to all things porcine with the mother&#8217;s milk. Shoot, my father&#8217;s a convert and he has acquired the customary instinctive reaction against pig-related things (including *metaphors*&#8211;he once objected to my innocent observation one day that he&#8217;d &#8220;pigged out&#8221; at an all-you-can-eat buffet). </p>
<p>I don&#8217; t know the particulars of this case and in this climate one can obviously easily cross the line into caricature, but I hate to say that well-meaning non-Muslims&#8217; anxieties about offending Muslims aren&#8217;t entirely unfounded here. Those of us who find this whole thing embarrassing might need to cut well meaning outsiders some slack&#8211;how are they supposed to know where the line is? We most certainly do have hangups about the critters.</p>
<p>I blogged about pigs a while ago, for those interested:<br />
<a href="http://akramsrazor.typepad.com/islam_america/2006/10/one_mans_passag_1.html">http://akramsrazor.typepad.com.....sag_1.html</a></p>
<p>Would love to join in the discussion, but most of these comments are too witty, ironic or obscure for me to follow. Maybe it&#8217;s a pan-British Commonwealth between you Brits and Aussies and I&#8217;m not supposed to understand&#8230;</p>
<p>Oops, rather than blogging about pigs, I should probably get my tail to juma!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Francis Gadd</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65229</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Francis Gadd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d agree with Yackoub that Bob the Builder has done a good job of promoting the building trade to the young (Smith 2006).  Some academics have argued though that the show is actually a trojan horse for capitalism and  individualism because Bob doesn&#039;t belong to a union and he employs non-union labour like that scab Wendy (Joshi 2003, Simon 2002, Nagarajayaratne 2007).

I also welcome the appearance of Spongebob Squarepants who has helped break down stereotypes about prissy, preening homosexuals in the workplace (Lee 2002).  This is in stark contrast to Clifford the Dog who continues to be portrayed as heterosexual and monogamous (Bartoj 2006, Humphrey 2001) and who promotes a culturally insensitive view of canine sexuality in the playground (Darrin 1999, Hodges 2001)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree with Yackoub that Bob the Builder has done a good job of promoting the building trade to the young (Smith 2006).  Some academics have argued though that the show is actually a trojan horse for capitalism and  individualism because Bob doesn&#8217;t belong to a union and he employs non-union labour like that scab Wendy (Joshi 2003, Simon 2002, Nagarajayaratne 2007).</p>
<p>I also welcome the appearance of Spongebob Squarepants who has helped break down stereotypes about prissy, preening homosexuals in the workplace (Lee 2002).  This is in stark contrast to Clifford the Dog who continues to be portrayed as heterosexual and monogamous (Bartoj 2006, Humphrey 2001) and who promotes a culturally insensitive view of canine sexuality in the playground (Darrin 1999, Hodges 2001)</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Tancredi</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/01/24/three-little-pigs-offensive-to-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-65227</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Tancredi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why so much hatred?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, you&#039;re right. David Irving&#039;s brother isn&#039;t the issue here. It&#039;s your post, Paul. I didn&#039;t like it.

I resent the fact that Australia never sold Porky Pig underwear. Or maybe they did and no one told me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why so much hatred?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, you&#8217;re right. David Irving&#8217;s brother isn&#8217;t the issue here. It&#8217;s your post, Paul. I didn&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>I resent the fact that Australia never sold Porky Pig underwear. Or maybe they did and no one told me!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Francis Gadd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Francis Gadd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why so much hatred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why so much hatred?</p>
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