Terror Trials Update

The legal team defending accused terrorist leader Abdul Nacer Benbrika is running a fascinating defence.

Mr Van de Wiel described the attacks [September 11] as “evil and shocking”.”But don’t forget, America has done many evil things too,” Mr van de Wiel told the court.

He also told the Victorian Supreme Court jury to be cautious about forming the opinion that Osama bin Laden, who it has heard was a hero to the leader of the Melbourne group, was responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

“To say this was all orchestrated by Osama bin Laden is also very silly,” he said.

“He has never claimed responsibility.”

Well, that’s not entirely true but, in all likelihood, Mr Van de Wiel was simply acting under the instructions of his client when he brought this stuff up in court.

The other curious argument being deployed is that the accused is just not really up to the task of being a terrorist:

“You may have been of the view that Mr Benbrika can’t lead ants to sugar, can’t organise a booze-up in a brewery . . . let alone run a terrorist organisation,” he said.

The entire case is proving to be quite interesting. The recorded conversations between the alleged terrorists have so far covered such things as shooting a prominent Melbourne Muslim leader who had warned them against carrying out an attack; kidnapping another Muslim suspected of being an “informer”, tying him to a tree and extracting the “truth” from him; meeting a sheikh at his car with batons; and appearing to threaten a journalist.

For example, ABC Radio’s PM program last week played a reenactment [mp3] (complete with accents) of a taped conversation between two of the accused terrorists in which they discuss killing “little kids”, blowing up a train station, killing the then Prime Minister and killing the Prime Minister’s family. The defence doesn’t dispute the conversation but argued that it was merely the “talk” of a young Muslim man trying to find his place in the world (whatever that means).

10 comments ↓

#1 Abu Omar on 03.17.08 at 7:47 am

Are these guys for real? This just shows how the ignorant can easily be manipulated by extremist demagogues, especially among second or third generation youth (look at how Omar Bakri was able to beguile so many Asian-British kids).

#2 Abdul on 03.17.08 at 10:06 am

It’s interesting that almost all these guys come from the same village in Lebanon too.

#3 Muslim_perth on 03.17.08 at 10:21 am

Sorry australobe, im not defending Benrika or his crew but i would like to add one thing to the above….

Bin laden has always denied any role in 9/11. no matter how many fake bin laden videos keep popping up and admitting to 9/11, the evidence points to somthing more sinister than 19 arabs armed with box cutters… one of whose passports survived the entire expolosion and subsequent demolishen of the towers and one who wrote an incrimitating will, which was then left in his luggage which mysterioulsy never made the flight…

im sure there is more to the story and hope one day the truth does come out

#4 Danial on 03.19.08 at 7:21 am

No muslim_perth, he has clearly took responsibility for ihs attack on numerous tapes sent to al-Jazeera. Are you going to criticize al-Jazeera for airing ‘fake tapes’ then, by that logic?

And don’t forget, there are some Muslims who were clearly happy with what happened on 9/11 and refer to bin laden as a hero.

But of course, that’s limited to confused rejects residing in the West than in Muslim countries.

Don’t forget that bin laden himself praised the “operation” countless times, but you seem oblivious to it due to the fact that you think all Muslims are somehow perfect.

#5 Muslim_perth on 03.19.08 at 10:12 pm

My dear friend danial,

i have yet to see any credible evidence that OBL was behind 9/11, do not belive everything that the US govt wants you to accept as facts… Al-jazeera are not and do not claim to be a muslim channel in any sense…. and nor is Aljazeera free from error…

do a little research and you will clearly see that OBL has never claimed responisbility for 9/11, it is for this reason that on the FBI most wanted list (see webpae also) he is not wanted for 9/11 but for other alleged terrorist acts………

muslims are not perfect, i have never claimed this… some muslims may well have been happy after 9/11, as im sure many other peoples would have happy too, like the aryan brotherhood, latin leftist guerillas etc,, actually anyone who has ever been a victim to american terrorism would have had some sense of satisfaction after america got hit, once again this is not a muslim issue, Almost all islamic scholars and muslim countries leaders condemed this attack which targetted civilians……

regards
Muslim_Perth

#6 Abu Omar on 03.19.08 at 11:46 pm

I think at this point those who still claim that bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 are either grossly ignorant or willfully denying reality. In a video tape released in 2004 Osama bin Laden released a video tape in which he acknowledged involvement in 9/11:

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush’s claim that we hate freedom.

If so, then let him explain to us why we don’t strike for example - Sweden? And we know that freedom-haters don’t possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 - may Allah have mercy on them.

No, we fight because we are free men who don’t sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours.

No one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes himself believe he will be secure. Whereas thinking people, when disaster strikes, make it their priority to look for its causes, in order to prevent it happening again.

But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.

So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.

I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.

I couldn’t forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn’t include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn’t respond.

In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

It seems pretty obvious to me that he is confessing his involvement with 9/11 there.

#7 Muslim_perth on 03.20.08 at 11:40 am

sorry brother, it is proven as fake:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape2.html

#8 Abu Omar on 03.20.08 at 11:54 am

“Proven”? I’m sorry, but a site that makes a business out of pushing various conspiracy theories is not proof of anything.

#9 Muslim_perth on 03.20.08 at 3:57 pm

i think that the only conspiracy theory here is the one that argues that 19 arab men armed only with boxcutters were able to bring down those towers by controlling planes that and doing flight manovers that even experienced pilots could not even pull off……..

however, to you be your opinion and to me be mine inshallah

peace

#10 Shadower on 03.21.08 at 10:58 am

I agree with Abu Omar, but placing 9/11 aside, no one is going to say that Bin Ladin does not support and has not called for the massacre of civilians.

And anyone who “derived satisfaction” from the 9/11 massacre of civilians seriously has something wrong with them and should be seeing a therapist.

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