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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-107175</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geert Wilders&#8217; anti-Muslim film, Fitna, arrived on the web on Friday. Broken Left Leg is unimpressed with Andrew Bolt&#8217;s publication of the film, and Bolt&#8217;s avowed reasons for publishing. Amir at Austrolabe thinks all the fuss is just a storm in a demi-tasse: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Geert Wilders&#8217; anti-Muslim film, Fitna, arrived on the web on Friday. Broken Left Leg is unimpressed with Andrew Bolt&#8217;s publication of the film, and Bolt&#8217;s avowed reasons for publishing. Amir at Austrolabe thinks all the fuss is just a storm in a demi-tasse: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Islam means peace</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-87367</link>
		<dc:creator>Islam means peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...what a freedom of speech!

 Tomorrow you want any Muslim to make a 15- min film against Christianity or Jesus???? Would you then call it &#039;Freedom of Speech&#039; ? 

But of course, no Muslim would do that. It is because our religion does not allow that.We believe in all previous Messengers including Jesus, and all of them are held in equal esteem. Our religion does not permit us to carry out even the smallest of measures against any religion or its followers.

Now who teaches peace?? Isn&#039;t it the Quran? Isn&#039;t it ALLAH? Isn&#039;t it Islam?? 
i advise this Wilders to get his knowledge right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;what a freedom of speech!</p>
<p> Tomorrow you want any Muslim to make a 15- min film against Christianity or Jesus???? Would you then call it &#8216;Freedom of Speech&#8217; ? </p>
<p>But of course, no Muslim would do that. It is because our religion does not allow that.We believe in all previous Messengers including Jesus, and all of them are held in equal esteem. Our religion does not permit us to carry out even the smallest of measures against any religion or its followers.</p>
<p>Now who teaches peace?? Isn&#8217;t it the Quran? Isn&#8217;t it ALLAH? Isn&#8217;t it Islam??<br />
i advise this Wilders to get his knowledge right!</p>
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		<title>By: Asif</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-83499</link>
		<dc:creator>Asif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakistan Lawmaker to Make Counter Fitna Film

A Pakistani lawmaker, Babar Awan, won’t make a film to counter the jihadists, or convince Muslims not to wage jihad, or to let woman be treated as equals, or challenge any other aspect of Islam. Instead, he’ll make a movie to counter Geert Wilders’ Fitna. Why spend any time convincing Muslims of their misunderstandings and un-Islamic behavior when defending Islam’s honor is at stake?

The last sentence of this article might have been better served up first: “Insulting the Quran or Muhammad is punishable by death under Pakistani law.”

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: A Pakistani lawmaker said Sunday he will fund a movie to rebut an anti-Quran film made by a Dutch politician that has drawn strong condemnation in the Islamic world.

The Dutch movie — “Fitna” or “ordeal” in Arabic — juxtaposes verses from Islam’s holy book with images of the terror attacks on New York, Madrid and elsewhere, and shows footage of imams saying Islam should dominate the world.

Pakistani Sen. Babar Awan said his film will “answer the malicious propaganda.”

“This film will show Quran’s world view. This film will show Quran’s concept of humanity. This film will show how important human life is,” Awan said at a news conference.

The 15-minute film by Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, which appeared on the Internet on March 27, triggered angry street protests in Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as calls in other countries to boycott Dutch goods.

The Dutch government has disagreed with the harsh tone of Wilders’ movie but said the lawmaker has a constitutional right to express his views.

Wilders has said he’s entitled to air his opinions on “the danger and threat of Islam to our country and the West.”

Awan accused the Dutch film of labeling all Muslims terrorists, calling it “misleading, non-representative and very shallow.”

He said Islamic scholars have written the script for his movie and that shooting will start soon and take about 100 days to finish.

The film, which has not been named, will be in English, Arabic and Urdu — Pakistan’s main language. It will be released in cinemas at the beginning of Ramadan, the Islamic fasting month, likely in September, Awan said.

Awan did not say how much the movie will cost.

Wary of a backlash against the Dutch film, the Dutch embassy in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, has moved to a highly guarded five-star hotel for security reasons.

Violent protests also erupted in Pakistan after European newspapers published cartoons of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad in 2006. One of the drawings show Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistan Lawmaker to Make Counter Fitna Film</p>
<p>A Pakistani lawmaker, Babar Awan, won’t make a film to counter the jihadists, or convince Muslims not to wage jihad, or to let woman be treated as equals, or challenge any other aspect of Islam. Instead, he’ll make a movie to counter Geert Wilders’ Fitna. Why spend any time convincing Muslims of their misunderstandings and un-Islamic behavior when defending Islam’s honor is at stake?</p>
<p>The last sentence of this article might have been better served up first: “Insulting the Quran or Muhammad is punishable by death under Pakistani law.”</p>
<p>ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: A Pakistani lawmaker said Sunday he will fund a movie to rebut an anti-Quran film made by a Dutch politician that has drawn strong condemnation in the Islamic world.</p>
<p>The Dutch movie — “Fitna” or “ordeal” in Arabic — juxtaposes verses from Islam’s holy book with images of the terror attacks on New York, Madrid and elsewhere, and shows footage of imams saying Islam should dominate the world.</p>
<p>Pakistani Sen. Babar Awan said his film will “answer the malicious propaganda.”</p>
<p>“This film will show Quran’s world view. This film will show Quran’s concept of humanity. This film will show how important human life is,” Awan said at a news conference.</p>
<p>The 15-minute film by Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, which appeared on the Internet on March 27, triggered angry street protests in Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as calls in other countries to boycott Dutch goods.</p>
<p>The Dutch government has disagreed with the harsh tone of Wilders’ movie but said the lawmaker has a constitutional right to express his views.</p>
<p>Wilders has said he’s entitled to air his opinions on “the danger and threat of Islam to our country and the West.”</p>
<p>Awan accused the Dutch film of labeling all Muslims terrorists, calling it “misleading, non-representative and very shallow.”</p>
<p>He said Islamic scholars have written the script for his movie and that shooting will start soon and take about 100 days to finish.</p>
<p>The film, which has not been named, will be in English, Arabic and Urdu — Pakistan’s main language. It will be released in cinemas at the beginning of Ramadan, the Islamic fasting month, likely in September, Awan said.</p>
<p>Awan did not say how much the movie will cost.</p>
<p>Wary of a backlash against the Dutch film, the Dutch embassy in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, has moved to a highly guarded five-star hotel for security reasons.</p>
<p>Violent protests also erupted in Pakistan after European newspapers published cartoons of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad in 2006. One of the drawings show Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban.</p>
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		<title>By: antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-82502</link>
		<dc:creator>antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, for a few minutes I was nearly sucked into bleak world of the Zealot and actually thought that maybe there might be some cause to be concerned about the content of a video - any video. Then, luckily, I came to my senses. People! It&#039;s the opinion of ONE PERSON! It ought not affect you in any way at all! The extent to which it does affect you is a measure of your psychological problems! Get OVER this paranoia already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, for a few minutes I was nearly sucked into bleak world of the Zealot and actually thought that maybe there might be some cause to be concerned about the content of a video &#8211; any video. Then, luckily, I came to my senses. People! It&#8217;s the opinion of ONE PERSON! It ought not affect you in any way at all! The extent to which it does affect you is a measure of your psychological problems! Get OVER this paranoia already!</p>
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		<title>By: Eudaemonion</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-82493</link>
		<dc:creator>Eudaemonion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it easy on the capital letters Asif!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it easy on the capital letters Asif!</p>
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		<title>By: Farhat Aziz</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-82422</link>
		<dc:creator>Farhat Aziz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aslim wa Alikum,
                       Holland has been very involved for the work of Orientalist,s about Quran and criticism on Muslims as reknown &quot;Encyclopaedia of Islam&quot; published from LIEDEN in 1986. There must be intert faith diologue in this regrd among Muslims or Non Muslims. The Imam e Kaabah as a representative of Muslims and Pop from Christian n other leaders must be called at the plateform of U.N.O for permoting  the diologue, harmony,plurastic  society and co-existance agreements for the controll of biased situations in the World. thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aslim wa Alikum,<br />
                       Holland has been very involved for the work of Orientalist,s about Quran and criticism on Muslims as reknown &#8220;Encyclopaedia of Islam&#8221; published from LIEDEN in 1986. There must be intert faith diologue in this regrd among Muslims or Non Muslims. The Imam e Kaabah as a representative of Muslims and Pop from Christian n other leaders must be called at the plateform of U.N.O for permoting  the diologue, harmony,plurastic  society and co-existance agreements for the controll of biased situations in the World. thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Asif</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-79424</link>
		<dc:creator>Asif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments on “Dutch movie FITNA” released by a Dutch MP.

    * If you see the movie FITNA by an open mind/eyes, you clearly see, the mind/thinking working behind this is only hate of an individual against Islam.

    * The film maker picked the verses of Quran out of context and tried to develop hate to Islam among innocent people of other faiths by joining the video effects/clips.
    Producer tried to play with innocent hearts by joining video clips like, Twin Tower attack clips, with verses.
    I AM ASKING YOU PEOPLE, SHOULD ANY MUSLIM MAKE A MOVIE LIKE THIS “FITNA” AND JOINS THE TEACHING OF “BIBLE” WITH THE PICTURES/VIDEOS OF US ATTACK ON IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN……AND TRY TO PROVE THE SAME AS IN “FITNA”? SURE…..NO. THERE IS NO ANY MUSLIM IN THIS WORLD WHO CAN THINK TO COMMENT THE PROPHET JESUS AND HIS TEACHINGS. IF ANY DOES THIS, HE IS NOT A MUSLIM AT ALL, MAY BE HIS NAME IS LIKE OF MUSLIMS.

    * In this movie, speeches of Politician doesn’t mean that it is the sayings of Islam. and individuals’ act don’t mean the sayings of Islam.

    Quran Says: “ONE WHO SAVES THE LIVE OF ANY INNOCENT HUMAN IS AS HE SAVES THE WHOLE HUMANITY”

    We believe in “FREEDOM OF SPEECH” but with responsibility. By this kind of so called FREEDOM, actually you are hearting the millions of people. In humanity, freedom should be constructive, not for promote the hate in society/world.

    More Important: MUSLIMS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE HOLY QURAN and ALL PROPHETS INCLUDING MUHAMMAD, JESUS, DAVID, MOSIS and all others.

    I personally feel, the act of Dutch MP is based on hate to Muslims. Not only for Muslims but he is also against his society and country. His Movie will work as a fire in the society of Netherlands as well as in between thousands of Muslims and Christians in the world.

    May God/Allah help us to live with peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments on “Dutch movie FITNA” released by a Dutch MP.</p>
<p>    * If you see the movie FITNA by an open mind/eyes, you clearly see, the mind/thinking working behind this is only hate of an individual against Islam.</p>
<p>    * The film maker picked the verses of Quran out of context and tried to develop hate to Islam among innocent people of other faiths by joining the video effects/clips.<br />
    Producer tried to play with innocent hearts by joining video clips like, Twin Tower attack clips, with verses.<br />
    I AM ASKING YOU PEOPLE, SHOULD ANY MUSLIM MAKE A MOVIE LIKE THIS “FITNA” AND JOINS THE TEACHING OF “BIBLE” WITH THE PICTURES/VIDEOS OF US ATTACK ON IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN……AND TRY TO PROVE THE SAME AS IN “FITNA”? SURE…..NO. THERE IS NO ANY MUSLIM IN THIS WORLD WHO CAN THINK TO COMMENT THE PROPHET JESUS AND HIS TEACHINGS. IF ANY DOES THIS, HE IS NOT A MUSLIM AT ALL, MAY BE HIS NAME IS LIKE OF MUSLIMS.</p>
<p>    * In this movie, speeches of Politician doesn’t mean that it is the sayings of Islam. and individuals’ act don’t mean the sayings of Islam.</p>
<p>    Quran Says: “ONE WHO SAVES THE LIVE OF ANY INNOCENT HUMAN IS AS HE SAVES THE WHOLE HUMANITY”</p>
<p>    We believe in “FREEDOM OF SPEECH” but with responsibility. By this kind of so called FREEDOM, actually you are hearting the millions of people. In humanity, freedom should be constructive, not for promote the hate in society/world.</p>
<p>    More Important: MUSLIMS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE HOLY QURAN and ALL PROPHETS INCLUDING MUHAMMAD, JESUS, DAVID, MOSIS and all others.</p>
<p>    I personally feel, the act of Dutch MP is based on hate to Muslims. Not only for Muslims but he is also against his society and country. His Movie will work as a fire in the society of Netherlands as well as in between thousands of Muslims and Christians in the world.</p>
<p>    May God/Allah help us to live with peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Eudaemonion</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-78831</link>
		<dc:creator>Eudaemonion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really do find it refreshing, being told exactly what constitutes my religion and the religion of my East African forbears by a bunch of people resolutely committed to opposing it as an insidious &#039;cult&#039;.

Most successful and longest lasting cult, if you ask me. That is, assuming that Mullah Spencer and his Dar al Uloom, North Carolina, are on the money here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really do find it refreshing, being told exactly what constitutes my religion and the religion of my East African forbears by a bunch of people resolutely committed to opposing it as an insidious &#8216;cult&#8217;.</p>
<p>Most successful and longest lasting cult, if you ask me. That is, assuming that Mullah Spencer and his Dar al Uloom, North Carolina, are on the money here.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Omar</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-78753</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Yusuf Smith,

Brother, Robert Spencer is upset with you for bashing his favorite new blockbuster: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020509.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Yusuf Smith,</p>
<p>Brother, Robert Spencer is upset with you for bashing his favorite new blockbuster: <a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020509.php">http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020509.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abu Bakr</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/03/30/fitna/comment-page-1/#comment-78691</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Bakr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See also the comments at Closer, from Martijn:
 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/03/29/coming-soonfitna-v-analysing-political-propaganda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also the comments at Closer, from Martijn:<br />
 <a href="http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/03/29/coming-soonfitna-v-analysing-political-propaganda">http://religionresearch.org/ma.....propaganda</a></p>
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