Town planners in Sydney’s Camden have recommended that a proposed Islamic school in the area not be allowed to go ahead:
A Muslim society’s plans to build a school in Camden have been dealt a severe blow after the local council’s planners today recommended against the development on planning grounds.
The Qu’uranic Society Dar Tahfez El-Quran had lodged plans with Camden Council to build a 1200-pupil school at Burragorang Road, Cawdor but drew angry protests from a group called the Committee for Public Affairs Education.
The Herald revealed the group was organised by members of Reverend Fred Nile’s Christian Democratic Party.
The business papers [pdf], already on the Council website, detail the findings and reasons for their decision.
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Town planners are only slightly less useless than psychologists and astrologers. All town planning laws should be abolished and we’d all benefit from cheaper rent, affordable housing, cheaper food prices and… Islamic schools in Camden.
These people bought the land and they should be allowed to do what they want with it. Their rights should be #1 and to hell with the “rights” of the residents of that town to not see Muslim kids running around.
mmm wonder what ‘jokes’ salam cafe will do about this next week……
“All town planning laws should be abolished and we’d all benefit from cheaper rent, affordable housing,”
The plague too no doubt.
Ah what’s a few harmless fleabites between friends?
Is there something wrong with Salam Cafe?
They should change the laws so people can build high density housing in the inner city though. It’s sily that there is so much demand for those suburbs but the laws limit the number/size of the houses that can be built. No wonder prices are so high.
That my brother is a more reasonable way of putting it.
As to the school, well we need to consolidate our resources anyway. There are too many Muslim schools out there that are not viable in the long run until they get bigger, right now new schools are poaching students off older ones that are seriously under resourced. This is probably a blessing for us if it does not go through. [obviously it must be since for the believer its all good]
Over time I agree we’ll see schools go out of business or consolidate. There are some in that are so small they have three grades crammed into a single class. They are cheap though and so they play an important role by offering Islamic education to families who can’t afford more expensive schools like King Khalid or Malik Fahd. If there was just Malek Fahd in Sydney, you can imagine how expensive it would be!
http://camden.yourguide.com.au.....40600.aspx
Just curious, randall - presumably rents would be cheaper if building standards were abolished as well. Is that also on the agenda?
Strider that might be true about the high density housing, but the issue of Sydney’s infrastructure capabilities needs to be dealt with then. Can they handle more congestion? I think the solution for larger cities like Melbourne and Sydney need to be encouraging businesses to move into the fringe, such as Ballarat, Frankston, Geelong, Seymour around Melbourne. Sydney would need it a lot more as the city was not designed on a grid like Melbourne, and suffers from the heavy congestion a lot more.
On the issue of the Islamic School in Camden, does the Islamic community own the land? At the very least they should of made some profit on the land, they should keep the land as a long term investment if possible and look elsewhere to establish their school.
The Muslims should not taking this lying down. They should all start moving into Camden. The locals will flee, property prices will plummet and then stacks more Muslims can move in. Stack the local council and voila! Permission to build Madrasas granted!
Entirely too long a process John.
I take it that the fact that no-one is bothering to address the reasons for the rejection means that there was never any chance of you-all accepting the umpoire’s decision?
Some of the other threads on the same topic covered those antish.
Antish, I for one have no problem with the “umpire’s decision”, some of the reasons put forward by council are sensible and were addressed by some of the residents in the lead up. I had a feeling that the low lying nature of the land would be a deciding factor.
Salam,
Why build a school so far away(1 hour drive) from the main community whose children will attend the school?
Why not build a school some where more convinient?
There is one point here that has not been mentioned. That is Salaam cafe treatment of Camden’s Islamic school debate.
The show promotes its very smart and well educated presenters who talk about Muslim issues. One of these public intellectuals (Waleed Aly), could have gone down to Camden an interviewed the Mayor and the locals who are against the school.
Surely Waleed with his high self regard, should easily have been able to expose the spurious reasons that were proffered to deny the application.
Instead they sent that brown baboo who, rather than humiliating the locals, embarrassed himself. The Mayor brushed him off and “Uncle Sam” was reduced to playing a chimpanzee clothed as a Muslim (something he does with an uncomfortably compelling authenticity).
If the purpose was to humiliate the people of Camden from Salaam cafe’s bully pulpit, they failed, and if it was to show how funny they were, their failure was even more abject.
What they have done is to reinforce perceptions that we are buffoons, and we have no talents beyond demonstrating that we have none.
Hmmm, a good thing I don’t approve of watching TV. I have yet to hear anything I consider positive about the show.
I thought Unkle Sam did an excellent job dealing with the issue in a light-hearted manner. His point about the traffic (or lack thereof) was well-made. We should learn to lighten up.
ugh. whinging bloody moslems.
they come here, and what do they expect? they expect the country to bow down to their wants. what did they expect? they have arrived in an anglo christian society.
we dont want what they have escaped from, to infiltrate into australia. and their schooling is the first step towards the islamification of australia. bugger that and bugger them.
Don’t forget the delightful quote (I paraphrase)
“they are taking OUR welfare” more like paying it!
Is there any suggestion that the planners’ decision was influenced by the random racists in the community? If so, it will be remarkably easy to win on appeal. If not, you aren’t helping by harping on it.
I highly doubt the council would of been influenced by the racists within the community.
I find schools tend to stimulate other growth within a community, especially small business take away shops that rely on the students for a fair sum of their daily takings on week days.
A reasonable council would not reject such potential based upon stupid arguments.
My taxes keep Pixie’s family in their housing commission flat, Pixie’s brother in clean needles, and for pixie’s bulk billed abortions (as a form of birth control).
I don’t mind the last one, as it is preferable to funding another generation of her spawn.
So here’s my question, why won’t Pixie do something useful with her life and sign her organ donor card?
Sydney Muslim, you are probably correct, but are any Muslims here actually against “the Islamification of Australia”? Didn’t think so. When the goal (or hope) of one section of the community is so radically at odds with that of the rest of the community there is bound to be friction.
dear sydney moslem,
i own several homes, tyvm.
and please be aware that i know more about your horrible koran than you do, have absolutely no doubt about that.
i have pity for moslems for they have been decieved, by the great satan who insists on being called allah, and by his manservant mohammud, for whom you have to beg that peace be upon, because deep down you know he is writhing in hell.
and no, there is no moslem who doesnt want the islamification of where they live, their adopted, fled to countries. and even if they did, religiously speaking, they wouldnt be able to express it to another moslem.
thats why they become ‘terroristic’; theyre all trying to outholy each other.
read up on it, sydney moslem. read up on it.
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Surely Waleed with his EXTREME ARROGANCE, should easily have been able to TWIST the reasons that were proffered to deny the application.
Instead they sent that brown baboo who, rather than humiliating the locals,(WELL LOOKY LOOKY AT THE WAY THEY WANT TO PLAY!!) embarrassed himself. The Mayor brushed him off and “Uncle Sam” was reduced to playing a chimpanzee clothed as a Muslim (something he does with an uncomfortably compelling authenticity).
If the purpose was to humiliate the people of Camden (AND IT WAS CAUSE MOSLEMS ARE SO CEREBRAL…NOT!)from Salaam cafe’s bully pulpit, they failed, and if it was to show how funny they were, their failure was AS PER USUAL.
What they have done is to reinforce THE UNDENIABLE TRUTH that we are buffoons, and we have no talents beyond demonstrating that we have none.”
FIXED
I love the way you kaffirs are such experts on the Deen of Allah Mighty and Majestic. Don’t forget that we actually worship the moon and just don’t realise it. Not to mention that most of the posters here are most likely born here, and either converts or the children of people who made hijra for dunya.
But hey, don’t pay attention to me. I’m just terrified of a cyber-fatwa being taken out against me, so I’m really practising taqiyya.
Become a mozlem, Jesus will love you for it.
Sanctimoniousness is not a virtue. I’m sure ALL of the worlds religions agree on this particular point.
Why would one bother making reasoned argument with a professional troll? Watchout Gandalf is coming. I’m more inclined to read The Lord of the Rings as actual history than the twaddle you peddle.
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