SBS: Embedded with Sheik Hilaly

The Herald Sun is reporting today on a new documentary featuring the former “mufti” of Australia, New Zealand and Pacific Islands, Sheikh Taj ad-Deen al-Hilali.  It’s called Embedded with Sheikh Hilaly (the image above is taken from the SBS website).

SHEIK Taj Hilaly, the former Mufti of Australia who compared scantily clad women to “uncovered meat” in 2006, is making a comeback in a SBS documentary.

According to the SBS website, it will be a three part documentary, following Dave, a “white guy from Brisbane”, who moves in with the former mufti to supposedly “understand” what it means to be a Muslim.

In the opening scene he declares, “I’m the man of ladies in Australia” and pretends to strike women with a stick.

SBS’s Arabic language radio program discuss the program here [mp3].

40 comments ↓

#1 antish on 08.31.08 at 2:38 pm

While I have no doubt that some Muslims will find it scandelous or worse, this is incredibly good for the Muslim community in Australia.

#2 sarah on 08.31.08 at 10:06 pm

does the Sheikh’s quest for fame and notoriety ever end? Next thing you know it’ll be Snoop Dogg and the sheikh rap video. Why doesn’t he just join the Big Brother house and get it over and done with?

#3 Steve on 08.31.08 at 10:24 pm

Why is that Antish?

#4 antish on 09.01.08 at 12:32 am

Smacks down several major problems

1. Racial stereotyping vanishes in a one-on-one situation, as this apparently is

2. Hilali is apparently a smart and funny guy – perfect forum for it

3. If he has been endlesslessly ‘taken out of context’ this is the best pssible way to put it in context

Not that I like Hilali but if he does have anything valid to say, he will get to say it (and show it) in a very soft setting.

And how will this help the Muslim community? 99% of non-Muslim Australians with reservations about Muslim immigration would list Hilali as an example of what they don’t like about it. (Yes, yes, not representative of the diversity of Muslims in Oz, many have rejected his views, blah blah). Anthing that softens Hilali’s image has to help.

#5 Irfan Yusuf on 09.01.08 at 2:32 am

I heard they originally got a Muslim to do this show but then sacked him as he didn’t want to focus on stereotypical imams …

#6 antish on 09.01.08 at 11:07 am

Sorry, I don’t understand your comment IY. You’re not really saying that Hilali isn’t a Muslim, are you?

#7 G-man on 09.01.08 at 2:24 pm

“Anything that softens Hilali’s image has to help.” What if there’s nothing to soften? That may not help.

I think Sarah is right. It’s a shame he missed his chance with Big Brother, but maybe one of the networks will make an Aussie version of ‘I’m a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here’ with him in mind. They could put Wayne Carey in there too.

#8 Sara Tancredi on 09.01.08 at 4:34 pm

Yawn.

#9 Umm Yasmin on 09.06.08 at 11:18 am

No, I think what Irf means is the guy embedded WITH Sh. Hilali was originally a Muslim dude (I know he is because I know who it is) but now they have an Anglo non-Muzzo.

BTW I’ve nominated Austrolabe for an “I Love Your Blog” meme award.

#10 snagabeardedmozlem on 09.16.08 at 8:11 pm

wow. he bears a striking similarity to baber on ‘little mosque on the prairie’.

#11 aiman on 09.16.08 at 11:20 pm

That’s like hopping with a kangaroo while trying to learn the ways of the possum.

#12 Cutting Edge: Embedded with Sheik Hilaly — SBS « Floating Life on 09.24.08 at 8:51 am

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#13 Marko on 09.24.08 at 11:11 am

I didnt like this doco. I’d give it 4 out of 10.
the first couple of minutes were OK. but then the guy lost the plot.

and how stupidly awkward was that “uncovered meat” questioning?
like, they are trying to explain the metaphor as they see it and the brain-dead reporter says “yeah, but can you explain it to ME?”

oh yeah, the part with the muslim chick in the shopping centre was electric, but he spoiled it by his silly hand gesticulations.
That chick is a hot, hot , hot babe.

xoxoxo to her :-)

#14 heidifromoz on 09.24.08 at 11:19 am

Another attempt to make Islam and its adherents culturally palatable.

Shows like this send the message that Islam is fine, Islam is okay, we’re good guys. Whatever conclusion this program ultimately draws, the fact remains that Hilali wants Sharia law imposed on Australia so that we lose our freedom and identity and become pan-Islamic.

‘It won’t happen overnight
But it will happen.’

#15 Umm Khaula on 09.24.08 at 12:58 pm

The doco was interesting and showed Hilaly as a very average funny guy. But still, some of the ways in which comments were placed by him made me feel uncomfortable. They could have been more plain, as in from the Islamic sense that they were obviously coming from. There didn’t need to be white-washing.

I would watch it again. I loved the micro sleep. I wish I could do that. He is a modest man, Shiekh Hilaly.

#16 Abdul Rahman on 09.25.08 at 1:02 am

“the fact remains that Hilali wants Sharia law imposed on Australia so that we lose our freedom and identity and become pan-Islamic.”
Your evidence for this “fact” is?

#17 G-man on 09.25.08 at 12:41 pm

It was probably in the small print.

#18 Darrin Hodges on 09.28.08 at 12:34 pm

You’ll find that “small print” in Sahih Bukhari – Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24.

#19 Abdul Rahman on 09.28.08 at 5:53 pm

No comments about your connection to Internet smut Darrin? It is a rather strange occupation for a man that posts so much about Jesus. You seem awfully silent on that little issue, deleting my comments in your blog and avoiding them here and certainly never mentioning them on your little fascist forums. Come on, be a man and give us Jimmy Swaggert moment.

#20 Eudaemonion on 09.29.08 at 4:03 am

Come off it Darren. You’ve not been within 10 kms of a copy of Sahih Bukhari. Which crappy JihadWatch ‘expose’ did you this little gem of a quotation?

#21 James on 10.01.08 at 12:46 pm

Am I to take it from these comments that the general muslim community does not like, accept, agree with Halali?
You will go a long way quelling the fears generated by Darrin and his ilk if you publically denounced him and others like him.

#22 Darrin Hodges on 10.01.08 at 3:56 pm

Its amazing what you can find if you look hard enough.

#23 Irfan on 10.04.08 at 5:56 am

James, if Muslims denounce Hilaly (which many have), they should do so because of what he says and does. NOT because of what monocultural jihadists expect them to do. We didn’t see the monoculturalists condemning their own Hilaly’s like John Winston Howard, Bronny Bishop and other Liberal Party muftis.

#24 Darrin Hodges on 10.06.08 at 11:06 am

Gee Ifran, I’m glad you could take time out of your busy,busy schedule to leave your droppings, err, comments here. Moderating all those comments on your blog must be a full time job in itself eh?

#25 Abdul Rahman on 10.07.08 at 12:33 pm

Not like with your blog Jimmy, the only one posting in there is you.
BTW you will need to leave more than a reference like that if you expect us to actually check your “proofs”, each translation is numbered differently as there are many errors between them, but as an expert on Islam, you knew that didn’t you.

PS Irfan, whether and anyone else who might care. It is Sheik, Shaykh, Sheikh Hilali or whatever other translation you might prefer no matter what your feelings about him, his position still deserves the proper forms of address.

#26 Darrin Hodges on 10.08.08 at 11:22 am

Yes of course Abdul, there is always an excuse. You can find that particular reference:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fu.....2.sbt.html

#27 Abdul Rahman on 10.08.08 at 12:07 pm

It isn’t an excuse Darrin, it’s a fact. I know where you source your material from, but others might not. Will you now explain your process of ijtihad so we dumb Muslims can understand what our religion is teaching us yet we seem ignorant of?

Have you stopped drinking that halal water yet, you don’t want to confuse your less informed Christian mates into eating evil food do you?

#28 Darrin Hodges on 10.08.08 at 1:33 pm

If illiterate 7th century Arabs could understand it, then surely a literate 21st century person such as your self can?

As for your “halal water”, I wash the dog with it, he doesn’t seem to mind. Sometimes he gets zamzam for a treat.

#29 Eudaemonion on 10.08.08 at 5:24 pm

Yes Darren, Islam was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad and his Companions in modern English, which makes Jurisprudence based on it quite straightforward for the literate 21st Century Australian Muslim.

Blathering idiocy.

#30 G-man on 10.08.08 at 6:32 pm

I’m finding it hard to believe you seriously think English isn’t God’s native tongue… On a more serious note, not to appear to be speaking for Daz, but Islamists/jihadis and a substantial number of imams preaching in British mosques seem to agree with that translation, do they not?

#31 Darrin Hodges on 10.08.08 at 7:12 pm

Golly, you really do have to dense to be a Muslim don’t you?

#32 Al-Muhandis on 10.08.08 at 9:51 pm

Darrin “Gay sex videos” Hodges writes:

As for your “halal water”, I wash the dog with it, he doesn’t seem to mind. Sometimes he gets zamzam for a treat.

Do you make your dog do ghusl when you are finished with it?

#33 Abdul Rahman on 10.09.08 at 2:04 am

It has nothing to do with agreeing with the translation and everything to do with the process of how one turns evidence into law.

As a simple example there is a hadith that tells us that there is no prayer without a specific verse in it, which would lead the ignorant to think that the obligatory prayer is invalid without it, yet according to the Hanafi madhab the Quran trumps hadith where there is an apparent contradiction and all one needs to do is “recite what you know” as a bare minimum of validity. So for starters, what other evidence is there that bears on this issue, how are they ranked, how are they supposed to be understood and how do they interact?

So Darrin “I have sinned” Hodges what else is there?

#34 Darrin Hodges on 10.09.08 at 10:31 am

Where there is a contradiction, which is more authorative, the Qur’an or the ahadith?

#35 Abdul Rahman on 10.09.08 at 11:19 am

However we might feel about Darrin, comments like that in #32 should not be permitted on this site, however apparently hilarious.

Darrin you clearly don’t get it, until you do, stop acting like you know what you are talking about. It might wash with your mates but here it just makes you look stupid.

#36 Darrin Hodges on 10.09.08 at 11:27 am

Where there is a contradiction, which is more authorative, the Qur’an or the ahadith?

#37 muslim_perth on 10.09.08 at 12:27 pm

The Quran

#38 Eudaemonion on 10.09.08 at 3:14 pm

GMan, I’m not sure whether that was humour or not. God is not a ‘native’, ergo, English is not His ‘native language’. Imagine the confusion were the Prophet’s, especially Moses, addressed in a language that would not come into being for hundreds or thousands of years.

#39 G-man on 10.09.08 at 6:41 pm

Of course it was humour. Well, intended…

#40 dawood on 10.09.08 at 8:41 pm

If you can’t even answer your own question Darrin, what makes you think you can speak with any type of authoritativeness regarding Islam and can tell Muslims what their own religion supposedly tells them by looking at the religious sources in translation?

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