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	<title>Comments on: The RMIT Muslim prayer room issue</title>
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		<title>By: Abdul Rahman</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-188377</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Rahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps we can perform a janazah for this website in the new multi-faith facility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps we can perform a janazah for this website in the new multi-faith facility.</p>
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		<title>By: Eudaemonion</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-184595</link>
		<dc:creator>Eudaemonion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Mike Worldly.

First, he advocates taking cues on religious tolerance from a repressive Monarchy. Second, he thinks that religious tolerance in Australia is a product of Christianity. Third, he advocates people being content with what they&#039;re arbitrarily given by the powers that be. Fourth, he exposes his ignorance of Saudi Kings, which puts into question his claim about working there. Last, he conflates Muslims with the typical dark man stereotype.

So, in total, Mike Worldly has a repression fetish, is horribly confused, is a Statist, a liar and a racist. Enough said.

Cam R is not much different.

If this is the quality of the opposition, I wonder what else has kept this situation from being properly resolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Mike Worldly.</p>
<p>First, he advocates taking cues on religious tolerance from a repressive Monarchy. Second, he thinks that religious tolerance in Australia is a product of Christianity. Third, he advocates people being content with what they&#8217;re arbitrarily given by the powers that be. Fourth, he exposes his ignorance of Saudi Kings, which puts into question his claim about working there. Last, he conflates Muslims with the typical dark man stereotype.</p>
<p>So, in total, Mike Worldly has a repression fetish, is horribly confused, is a Statist, a liar and a racist. Enough said.</p>
<p>Cam R is not much different.</p>
<p>If this is the quality of the opposition, I wonder what else has kept this situation from being properly resolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilkz</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-184163</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilkz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane you could say the same thing about hospitals can you not? It&#039;s a place where there is countless people getting treatment in all different wards, yet there is a place provided for worship. People use it to seek God help and aid for those whom they love. 

You could also say that&#039;s a room gone down the drain also, I mean it&#039;s a hospital right? They need all the space they can get BUT they&#039;ve made it available coz it&#039;s a necessity. 

Lastly you mentioned &#039;these wasted rooms could be put to better use&#039; if it happens that they never give back the rights of these students then yes, they should open up these rooms and provide special classes to teach and educate people like you that; no matter what race or religion you&#039;re from, if there is a good project or an idea put forward that’s not going harm the community and provide a good service than accept it with an open heart. At the end of the day, this country is a multicultural country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane you could say the same thing about hospitals can you not? It&#8217;s a place where there is countless people getting treatment in all different wards, yet there is a place provided for worship. People use it to seek God help and aid for those whom they love. </p>
<p>You could also say that&#8217;s a room gone down the drain also, I mean it&#8217;s a hospital right? They need all the space they can get BUT they&#8217;ve made it available coz it&#8217;s a necessity. </p>
<p>Lastly you mentioned &#8216;these wasted rooms could be put to better use&#8217; if it happens that they never give back the rights of these students then yes, they should open up these rooms and provide special classes to teach and educate people like you that; no matter what race or religion you&#8217;re from, if there is a good project or an idea put forward that’s not going harm the community and provide a good service than accept it with an open heart. At the end of the day, this country is a multicultural country.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Pike</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-183600</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a university, not a mosque.
It is a place for learning, not a place tp practice religious dogma.
Religon MUST be TOTALLY BANNED from all learning institutes.
There should be no rooms for religion at all.
I&#039;m sure that these, now wasted rooms, could be put to better use.
Religious nuts need to be placed where they belong, in mental institutes.
Regards.
Shane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a university, not a mosque.<br />
It is a place for learning, not a place tp practice religious dogma.<br />
Religon MUST be TOTALLY BANNED from all learning institutes.<br />
There should be no rooms for religion at all.<br />
I&#8217;m sure that these, now wasted rooms, could be put to better use.<br />
Religious nuts need to be placed where they belong, in mental institutes.<br />
Regards.<br />
Shane.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam R</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-183434</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me sick. Minority groups who believe they deserve preferential treatment ahead of others, because, simply, they can make more noise.

Some of the media coverage covering this are flat out lies (i.e. - Muslim students &quot;forced&quot; to pray outside, as opposed to doing so in protest)

You don&#039;t NEED a seperate prayer room, it&#039;s simply a case of being contrary out of principle. Those of Islamic background do themselves little favours when it comes to overcoming issues of tolerance and inclusion into Australian culture, by attaching themselves to public relations nightmares such as this. 

Good luck in persuing what you believe in, I just hope in the meantime you can realise that the ends simply do not justify the means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me sick. Minority groups who believe they deserve preferential treatment ahead of others, because, simply, they can make more noise.</p>
<p>Some of the media coverage covering this are flat out lies (i.e. &#8211; Muslim students &#8220;forced&#8221; to pray outside, as opposed to doing so in protest)</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t NEED a seperate prayer room, it&#8217;s simply a case of being contrary out of principle. Those of Islamic background do themselves little favours when it comes to overcoming issues of tolerance and inclusion into Australian culture, by attaching themselves to public relations nightmares such as this. </p>
<p>Good luck in persuing what you believe in, I just hope in the meantime you can realise that the ends simply do not justify the means.</p>
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		<title>By: mike worldly</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-183379</link>
		<dc:creator>mike worldly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived and worked in Saudi Arabia, I think that the fact you can practice your religion at all in Australia shows what a generous society our Christian-based one is.  Other religions  are banned in Saudi!  Islam is intolerant of other religions.  As Australians are paying for these facilities (and your fees do not), then accept what you are given with good grace, or go and study at King Faud or other low-rent African or ME uni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived and worked in Saudi Arabia, I think that the fact you can practice your religion at all in Australia shows what a generous society our Christian-based one is.  Other religions  are banned in Saudi!  Islam is intolerant of other religions.  As Australians are paying for these facilities (and your fees do not), then accept what you are given with good grace, or go and study at King Faud or other low-rent African or ME uni.</p>
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		<title>By: Eudaemonion</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-169562</link>
		<dc:creator>Eudaemonion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their is a difference between &lt;b&gt;encouraging&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;requiring&lt;/b&gt;. The former implies choice in the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their is a difference between <b>encouraging</b> and <b>requiring</b>. The former implies choice in the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: antish</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-168959</link>
		<dc:creator>antish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can be prouder that they are encouraging religious to mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can be prouder that they are encouraging religious to mix.</p>
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		<title>By: islam- ex student</title>
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		<dc:creator>islam- ex student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all these years I was proud that Australian universities have muslim prayer rooms, but it seems universties administrations show their true color, they are happy to take our money and not happy to provide the supporting services they promised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all these years I was proud that Australian universities have muslim prayer rooms, but it seems universties administrations show their true color, they are happy to take our money and not happy to provide the supporting services they promised.</p>
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		<title>By: Yahya</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/01/the-rmit-muslim-prayer-room-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-163877</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the reneging on a promise is one issue which shouldn&#039;t be ignored, I don&#039;t think there is a problem Islamically with praying in ANY room. Of course it RMIT is smart they will provide facilities for washing etc (unless they want nearby bathrooms covered in water), but I wouldn&#039;t have a problem praying where others pray. Did not the Prophet allow the Christians of Najran to pray in his mosque?

I would suggest that RMIT make it clear to all students that they are not there to sing, sleep, eat lunch or try and convert other students. If people want to pray, keep the crescents, the crosses and the idols out of there and let them pray to God in their own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the reneging on a promise is one issue which shouldn&#8217;t be ignored, I don&#8217;t think there is a problem Islamically with praying in ANY room. Of course it RMIT is smart they will provide facilities for washing etc (unless they want nearby bathrooms covered in water), but I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem praying where others pray. Did not the Prophet allow the Christians of Najran to pray in his mosque?</p>
<p>I would suggest that RMIT make it clear to all students that they are not there to sing, sleep, eat lunch or try and convert other students. If people want to pray, keep the crescents, the crosses and the idols out of there and let them pray to God in their own way.</p>
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