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		<title>By: Irfan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-161117</link>
		<dc:creator>Irfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 06:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, take it off again. It really isn&#039;t a terribly Muslim blog at all. Still, it depends on whether you differentiate between &quot;Muslim&quot; and &quot;Islamic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, take it off again. It really isn&#8217;t a terribly Muslim blog at all. Still, it depends on whether you differentiate between &#8220;Muslim&#8221; and &#8220;Islamic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160927</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irfan, I cleaned out a few of the dormant or dead blogs from the list ages ago and must have (accidentally) deleted yours from the list.  It&#039;s back now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irfan, I cleaned out a few of the dormant or dead blogs from the list ages ago and must have (accidentally) deleted yours from the list.  It&#8217;s back now.</p>
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		<title>By: Irfan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160915</link>
		<dc:creator>Irfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing (unrelated to this topic). Thanks for taking &quot;Planet Irf&quot; off your list of &quot;Muslim blogs&quot;. I may be a Muslim but Planet Irf certainly does contain material that many more observant Muslims would find uncomfortable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing (unrelated to this topic). Thanks for taking &#8220;Planet Irf&#8221; off your list of &#8220;Muslim blogs&#8221;. I may be a Muslim but Planet Irf certainly does contain material that many more observant Muslims would find uncomfortable!</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160755</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most common issue, as far as I can tell, are imams who (for political or other reasons) refuse to grant women a khulu&#039; thus leaving them in a kind of &#039;limbo&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most common issue, as far as I can tell, are imams who (for political or other reasons) refuse to grant women a khulu&#8217; thus leaving them in a kind of &#8216;limbo&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Uludag</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160711</link>
		<dc:creator>Uludag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah maybe but until we read the report who knows what it says?  It&#039;s certainly got the enemies of Islam excited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah maybe but until we read the report who knows what it says?  It&#8217;s certainly got the enemies of Islam excited.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160602</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not having seen the report yet, it’s impossible to comment on the findings or the methodology that was used to derive them&quot;

Why is it that whenever there is a report that reveals something uncomfortable about muslims communities the natural impulse is to attack its methodology or credibility? You can throw a stone to find at least one muslim woman whose had some issue with islamic marriage/divorce at least. And there is huge anecdotal evidence to show these problems DO EXIST and NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. 

You may have a point with the prayer rooms, but maybe the sisters need to scare the boys with invading their glorious space to get comparable facilities. eww girl germs! Get them facilities quick smart! (You can even walk through the front door!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not having seen the report yet, it’s impossible to comment on the findings or the methodology that was used to derive them&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it that whenever there is a report that reveals something uncomfortable about muslims communities the natural impulse is to attack its methodology or credibility? You can throw a stone to find at least one muslim woman whose had some issue with islamic marriage/divorce at least. And there is huge anecdotal evidence to show these problems DO EXIST and NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. </p>
<p>You may have a point with the prayer rooms, but maybe the sisters need to scare the boys with invading their glorious space to get comparable facilities. eww girl germs! Get them facilities quick smart! (You can even walk through the front door!)</p>
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		<title>By: Uludag</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160513</link>
		<dc:creator>Uludag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If government and public opinion want to oversee and regulate Islamic legal practice in the Muslim community, let them sponsor and legitimise the establishment of Shari&#039;ah Courts for matters relating to family, marital and financial law.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do we really what government involved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If government and public opinion want to oversee and regulate Islamic legal practice in the Muslim community, let them sponsor and legitimise the establishment of Shari&#8217;ah Courts for matters relating to family, marital and financial law.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do we really what government involved?</p>
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		<title>By: Irfan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160419</link>
		<dc:creator>Irfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A furore over Muslim men taking multiple partners can only be taken seriously when it is a universal one that rains over every man who has more than one woman in his life. Until the Commonwealth passes legislation forbidding any multiplicity of relations between men and women, no Muslim man is doing anything wrong under Australian Law. For us Muslims to then create a culture of guilt and push it towards a man who takes another domestic partner besides his first wife, which Allah (swt) allows and Australian Law doesn&#039;t even deal with, is quite unfortunate.&quot;

The IWWC report focussed on men who engage in polygamous relationships secretly and at the expense of the taxpayer. As far as I am aware, sharia requires men themselves to support their wives. Allah allows you to have more than one wife, but not at my expense.

Further, the report discussed instances where imams condoned sexual violence inside marriage. This is an extremely serious matter. Rape within marriage is proscribed as a criminal offence across all states and territories of Australia.

As for Danny Nalliah&#039;s views on domestic violence ...

http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20070424-One-law-for-the-mufti-another-for-the-pastor.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A furore over Muslim men taking multiple partners can only be taken seriously when it is a universal one that rains over every man who has more than one woman in his life. Until the Commonwealth passes legislation forbidding any multiplicity of relations between men and women, no Muslim man is doing anything wrong under Australian Law. For us Muslims to then create a culture of guilt and push it towards a man who takes another domestic partner besides his first wife, which Allah (swt) allows and Australian Law doesn&#8217;t even deal with, is quite unfortunate.&#8221;</p>
<p>The IWWC report focussed on men who engage in polygamous relationships secretly and at the expense of the taxpayer. As far as I am aware, sharia requires men themselves to support their wives. Allah allows you to have more than one wife, but not at my expense.</p>
<p>Further, the report discussed instances where imams condoned sexual violence inside marriage. This is an extremely serious matter. Rape within marriage is proscribed as a criminal offence across all states and territories of Australia.</p>
<p>As for Danny Nalliah&#8217;s views on domestic violence &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20070424-One-law-for-the-mufti-another-for-the-pastor.html">http://www.crikey.com.au/Polit.....astor.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kashmiri Nomad</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160204</link>
		<dc:creator>Kashmiri Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austrolabe on reports that Imams in Australia are condoning rape and violence....&lt;a href=&quot;http://kashmiri-nomad.blogspot.com/2008/11/islam-and-west-accelerated-links-for_23.html&quot;&gt;Islam &amp; The West&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austrolabe on reports that Imams in Australia are condoning rape and violence&#8230;.<a href="http://kashmiri-nomad.blogspot.com/2008/11/islam-and-west-accelerated-links-for_23.html">Islam &amp; The West</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2008/11/22/report-on-imams-condoning-rape-and-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-160090</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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