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	<title>Comments on: ABC Newsreader calls for niqab to be banned</title>
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		<title>By: Hawa</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-208070</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that lady is messed up... 
is it any of her buisness to get mad... people walk around topless and its okay but when people try too look modest... u get pissed. I think u juss dont want to accept another persons culture.and religion because you&#039;re scared, or believe the sterotypes that surround the niqab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that lady is messed up&#8230;<br />
is it any of her buisness to get mad&#8230; people walk around topless and its okay but when people try too look modest&#8230; u get pissed. I think u juss dont want to accept another persons culture.and religion because you&#8217;re scared, or believe the sterotypes that surround the niqab.</p>
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		<title>By: ms</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-202675</link>
		<dc:creator>ms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #4 Hypatia &quot;Ms. Hausegger’s response to the threatening, supremacist, utterly dehumanized vision of this woman is absolutely defensible.&quot;

I find Ms. Hausegger to be threatening, supremacist, and utterly dehumanized. Clearly she must be banned in order to protect the Australian society we have worked so hard to cultivate over all these years. Perhaps this could be done though the immigration program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #4 Hypatia &#8220;Ms. Hausegger’s response to the threatening, supremacist, utterly dehumanized vision of this woman is absolutely defensible.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find Ms. Hausegger to be threatening, supremacist, and utterly dehumanized. Clearly she must be banned in order to protect the Australian society we have worked so hard to cultivate over all these years. Perhaps this could be done though the immigration program.</p>
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		<title>By: Khadija</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khadija</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niqab is anti-social and prevents these people interracting with the wider society. Humans require eye contact and rely on facial expression and facial recognition to go about many of their daily social interractions.

It&#039;s not a religious obligation. The requirements are clearly outlined in the Quran and they don&#039;t come close to encouraging niqab. Scholars dispute it, Turkey &amp; Egypt have niqab bans in place for certain areas of society.

We have the right to choose what we wear as long as it doesn&#039;t pose a risk, threat or negatively affects the wider social good. People are threatened by a niqab, it has a multitude of ways that it can be used in a criminal manner, people don&#039;t like them here.

The point is that people are meant to integrate into society and contribute positively, when it starts becoming about religious labels, mesh fences blocking people from being able to interact with you on a basic human level, then it is a good idea to ban it. 

It&#039;s a sign of extremism, political Islam and has no place in Australia. There are reasons why general facial coverings are banned, this is a progressive society and no one is forced to stay here. I would join the rally. I am a travelled person, I have been to many of the traditionally regarded &#039;Islamic countries&#039;... 

I don&#039;t have a problem with Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, just be pro-active in being committed to this society and stop behaving in ways that prevent everyone feeling safe, happy and calm.

Wearing a niqab makes more people uneasy and the reason has little to do with the fabric or the religion, but a more basic human need to be able to identify with each other through facial recognition. It&#039;s a very very basic human instinct, which is why it was never in the Quran, Allah (swt) created us this way, it&#039;s ridiculous that people then do things that go against what has been made for us to socialize and better ourselves.

Stop following false teachings, think about the bigger picture and promote an honest, true Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niqab is anti-social and prevents these people interracting with the wider society. Humans require eye contact and rely on facial expression and facial recognition to go about many of their daily social interractions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a religious obligation. The requirements are clearly outlined in the Quran and they don&#8217;t come close to encouraging niqab. Scholars dispute it, Turkey &amp; Egypt have niqab bans in place for certain areas of society.</p>
<p>We have the right to choose what we wear as long as it doesn&#8217;t pose a risk, threat or negatively affects the wider social good. People are threatened by a niqab, it has a multitude of ways that it can be used in a criminal manner, people don&#8217;t like them here.</p>
<p>The point is that people are meant to integrate into society and contribute positively, when it starts becoming about religious labels, mesh fences blocking people from being able to interact with you on a basic human level, then it is a good idea to ban it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sign of extremism, political Islam and has no place in Australia. There are reasons why general facial coverings are banned, this is a progressive society and no one is forced to stay here. I would join the rally. I am a travelled person, I have been to many of the traditionally regarded &#8216;Islamic countries&#8217;&#8230; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, just be pro-active in being committed to this society and stop behaving in ways that prevent everyone feeling safe, happy and calm.</p>
<p>Wearing a niqab makes more people uneasy and the reason has little to do with the fabric or the religion, but a more basic human need to be able to identify with each other through facial recognition. It&#8217;s a very very basic human instinct, which is why it was never in the Quran, Allah (swt) created us this way, it&#8217;s ridiculous that people then do things that go against what has been made for us to socialize and better ourselves.</p>
<p>Stop following false teachings, think about the bigger picture and promote an honest, true Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Eudaemonion</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196419</link>
		<dc:creator>Eudaemonion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting tidbit Umm Yasmin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tidbit Umm Yasmin.</p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196339</link>
		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Umm Yasmin. Two niqabis spotted today, and its not even lunchtime yet. Hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Umm Yasmin. Two niqabis spotted today, and its not even lunchtime yet. Hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Yasmin</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196317</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatima - me too. I&#039;ve seen *two* niqabis today (in totally separate venues) and that&#039;s more than I normally see in a month.

Having said that, little birdy told me said journo may be pumping for pre-selection for a Liberal seat. So she may be doing a desperate Pauline Hanson-Sophie Panopolos-Bronwyn Bishop-please-notice-me bid to establish her creds with the the ultra-conservative Liberal right. Time will tell I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatima &#8211; me too. I&#8217;ve seen *two* niqabis today (in totally separate venues) and that&#8217;s more than I normally see in a month.</p>
<p>Having said that, little birdy told me said journo may be pumping for pre-selection for a Liberal seat. So she may be doing a desperate Pauline Hanson-Sophie Panopolos-Bronwyn Bishop-please-notice-me bid to establish her creds with the the ultra-conservative Liberal right. Time will tell I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatima</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196251</link>
		<dc:creator>Fatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what I find amusing is the more they rant about topics like niqab and hijab the more I notice in our community that people are wearing it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what I find amusing is the more they rant about topics like niqab and hijab the more I notice in our community that people are wearing it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Ibn Rushd</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196250</link>
		<dc:creator>Ibn Rushd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These niqbas and other towels worn on head are not religious, they are political symbols. Look, while you are not all offensive and totally not worth our time, there are far, far too many who are. Banning things causes tensions in a society we have built very successfully to avoid. The best way to treat this pox on our society is at the source; through the immigration program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These niqbas and other towels worn on head are not religious, they are political symbols. Look, while you are not all offensive and totally not worth our time, there are far, far too many who are. Banning things causes tensions in a society we have built very successfully to avoid. The best way to treat this pox on our society is at the source; through the immigration program.</p>
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		<title>By: GMan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196167</link>
		<dc:creator>GMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off to check my deodourant...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off to check my deodourant&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GMan</title>
		<link>http://austrolabe.com/2009/07/09/abc-newsreader-calls-for-niqab-to-be-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-196166</link>
		<dc:creator>GMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Eudaemonion, I have yet to find anything more &quot;paternalistic&quot; or patriarchal than the so-called Abrahamic religions, and Islam is the big daddy of them all, the Pope not withstanding. I&#039;m not interested in telling you what you can and can&#039;t wear, regardless of the reasons you choose to wear it and I didn&#039;t mean to suggest that you shouldn&#039;t tackle the &quot;moronic media personalities&quot;. But so much fuss over a passing media &quot;trending topic&quot; when there are greater injustices everywhere? 

As for impacting on foreign authoritarian regimes, are you not the Ummah? If jihadis are able to stir the Ummah in foreign countries into action and slaughter and rioting over rumours of cartoons and whispers of insults to Qurans, surely 1.3 billion Muslims, all connected by Islam, can have some impact on the misery of their fellows at the hands of their fellows? I don&#039;t have much influence over foreign authoritarian regimes either but it didn&#039;t stop me participating to the best of my ability in opposing the invasion of Iraq. Much good it did, but still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eudaemonion, I have yet to find anything more &#8220;paternalistic&#8221; or patriarchal than the so-called Abrahamic religions, and Islam is the big daddy of them all, the Pope not withstanding. I&#8217;m not interested in telling you what you can and can&#8217;t wear, regardless of the reasons you choose to wear it and I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest that you shouldn&#8217;t tackle the &#8220;moronic media personalities&#8221;. But so much fuss over a passing media &#8220;trending topic&#8221; when there are greater injustices everywhere? </p>
<p>As for impacting on foreign authoritarian regimes, are you not the Ummah? If jihadis are able to stir the Ummah in foreign countries into action and slaughter and rioting over rumours of cartoons and whispers of insults to Qurans, surely 1.3 billion Muslims, all connected by Islam, can have some impact on the misery of their fellows at the hands of their fellows? I don&#8217;t have much influence over foreign authoritarian regimes either but it didn&#8217;t stop me participating to the best of my ability in opposing the invasion of Iraq. Much good it did, but still.</p>
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